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    Hey guys Just to let you guys know whatís up; I always research before I ask questions. But Iím in the navy and deployed out here in the Persian Gulf and work about 20hr days and donít have the time to do research. I just bought my first LS car right before I left and it is a 35 ceta. Itís a A4 car. I have always been a ford guy but not much on the LS family. I want to put some gears in it but I donít know what gears come in A4 cars and is there a difference in housing when the gear is high? Such as Iím I going to half to run a different gear then if it came with like 3:32 VS 3:08? Iím think a 4:10, Most likely going to spray the car and or run a supercharger, Since I cant turbo it in Cali. But if I do ill throw some 3:23's in her. The second is who makes a complete long tube header kit and y pipe with cats that doesnít cost an arm and a leg. If there isnít one what did you guys go with to safe money? Just weld in your own cats? Again thank you guys I would just research this stuff my self if i had the time

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    I believe in the A4's stock gears are normally 2.73's. If your going to do a gear swap I'd say at least go up to the 3.42's that come in the M6 or even 3.73's. As for decent priced Longtubes, pacesetter makes them decently priced. I just picked up the TSP 1 7/8 LT's for 480 i think. Or give Mark at KYSpeed a call. He'll hook you up. Good luck!

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    ws6 A4s are all 3:23...with that being said...pacesetters are really cheap and a good budget header..but why not go for afr or kooks or qtp stainless steel headers..with the Y pipe or even custom dual if possible....with all that being said..if you really want bang for your buck go for a yank 3600 stall..cuts up to .5 off your quarter and completely wakes up your car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shady milkman View Post
    ws6 A4s are all 3:23...
    forgive my lack of knowledge..

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    Quote Originally Posted by LS1Jason View Post
    forgive my lack of knowledge..
    its all good.

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    go 3.73s ..with a stall and you will love it.

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    Is a 3600 stall a good stall to run on an A4? Just curious as I will be doing this mod soon.....
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    Just check the door, or simply find the sticker that lists the rpo codes...

    If you find:

    GU2 = 2.73s
    GU5 = 3.23s
    GU6 = 3.42s

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    Quote Originally Posted by clg82 View Post
    Is a 3600 stall a good stall to run on an A4? Just curious as I will be doing this mod soon.....
    Yea, I got the ss3600 from Yank...it's a beast imo. I beat a buddy of mine that has the same mods as me, except he had 3.73s, a different stall, and a 200lb passenger, but i inched out the win.

    I have 2.73s, heavier wheels....

    Take that however you wanna look at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allbaugh_04 View Post
    Yea, I got the ss3600 from Yank...it's a beast imo. I beat a buddy of mine that has the same mods as me, except he had 3.73s, a different stall, and a 200lb passenger, but i inched out the win.

    I have 2.73s, heavier wheels....

    Take that however you wanna look at it.
    I know this has been beat to death but what exactly do you feel different with a 3600 stall? and with your 3600 stall did you install a tranny cooler as well? and where did you buy it from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by clg82 View Post
    I know this has been beat to death but what exactly do you feel different with a 3600 stall? and with your 3600 stall did you install a tranny cooler as well? and where did you buy it from?
    Yes, it has been beatin to death and I've explained it 10x. I didn't know shit when i got here and everyone has helped me out many times. I will answer any and EVERY question you have.

    Basically I can brake stall up 3k+ RPMS if I so wish. It doesn't necessarily even help my launch though.

    If I am rolling 5mph and punch the gas, it's instantly at about 5k or so. Obviously it's supposed to stall up to 3600, but idk how accurate our tachs are etc. It just jumps, very quickly. If you don't have the tires to support it, you'll just spin and spin.

    Say I'm doing 30 and punch the gas, it'll go from about 1500 RPMS and jump instantly up to the same RPMS..5k or so.

    It also has shift extension. When I am WOT and go from 1st to 2nd it'll hold the RPMS, much higher after the shift.

    I need to make a video so people can see how it works.

    My stall didn't feel awesome, till after the tune imo, so make sure if you put the money out for one, get a tune.

    I got my cooler from Jegs, it was one of the best coolers I could find without a fan and paid like 80 bucks for it, but it was like a 28k cooler if I remember right. You can find one for much less, but I just wanted to be as safe as I could be.

    Any other questions, just pm me, since i don't wanna jack the thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allbaugh_04 View Post
    Just check the door, or simply find the sticker that lists the rpo codes...

    If you find:

    GU2 = 2.73s
    GU5 = 3.23s
    GU6 = 3.42s
    he has a a4 ceta..so it has to be 3.23s

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    How are people liking running 4:10's in a A4 car? How is it on the highway, Still streetable, I would have to guess so

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    Quote Originally Posted by excel_autoparts View Post
    How are people liking running 4:10's in a A4 car? How is it on the highway, Still streetable, I would have to guess so

    Just my .02, but I think 4.10's would be horrible on a A4. I think they're just too much.

    I wouldn't go any higher than 3.73, and IMO 3.42's are a great A4 ratio.

    I have a freind with 4.10's in his A4 Firehawk, and he tells me he gets like 16mpg on the highway with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StuntmanMike View Post
    Just my .02, but I think 4.10's would be horrible on a A4. I think they're just too much.

    I wouldn't go any higher than 3.73, and IMO 3.42's are a great A4 ratio.

    I have a freind with 4.10's in his A4 Firehawk, and he tells me he gets like 16mpg on the highway with it.
    +1 DONT DO 4.10s unless you dont care about gas mpg. go with 373s.

    i have 4.10s but im a m6. its perfect.. not for auto IMO
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    excel, thanks man...my best friend just got back from Iraq a month ago...a lot of people appreciate what your giving up in order for us to continue to live free...

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    Quote Originally Posted by allbaugh_04 View Post
    Yes, it has been beatin to death and I've explained it 10x. I didn't know shit when i got here and everyone has helped me out many times. I will answer any and EVERY question you have.

    Basically I can brake stall up 3k+ RPMS if I so wish. It doesn't necessarily even help my launch though.

    If I am rolling 5mph and punch the gas, it's instantly at about 5k or so. Obviously it's supposed to stall up to 3600, but idk how accurate our tachs are etc. It just jumps, very quickly. If you don't have the tires to support it, you'll just spin and spin.

    Say I'm doing 30 and punch the gas, it'll go from about 1500 RPMS and jump instantly up to the same RPMS..5k or so.

    It also has shift extension. When I am WOT and go from 1st to 2nd it'll hold the RPMS, much higher after the shift.

    I need to make a video so people can see how it works.

    My stall didn't feel awesome, till after the tune imo, so make sure if you put the money out for one, get a tune.

    I got my cooler from Jegs, it was one of the best coolers I could find without a fan and paid like 80 bucks for it, but it was like a 28k cooler if I remember right. You can find one for much less, but I just wanted to be as safe as I could be.

    Any other questions, just pm me, since i don't wanna jack the thread.
    when it coes to high stall torque converters, the stall rating is just a guidline. take a 3600 stall for example---- a low torque engine may stall around 3200 with it while a high torque engine could stall around 3900.

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    depends on the brand of stall most of the time...

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    yank converters period........str means alot...give yank converters a call and they will help you out

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