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This is a discussion on Frankenbird Project within the Firebird / WS6 forums, part of the Vehicle Specific category; Originally Posted by ls1camino I actually spent all Saturday welding, I've gotten damn good. I spent many hours practicing on ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ls1camino View Post
    I actually spent all Saturday welding, I've gotten damn good. I spent many hours practicing on the minitubs since those will be hidden by the interior panels. I then moved onto the cage and got that knocked out in a few hours. My eyes really burn, even though I was using a welding helmet.
    Do you have an auto darkening shield?

    I have never welded for 8-10hrs but mine works fin for 1-2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by transamtom View Post
    Do you have an auto darkening shield?

    I have never welded for 8-10hrs but mine works fin for 1-2.
    Yeah, it's autodarkening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ls1camino View Post
    Yeah, it's autodarkening.
    does it have a lens with an adjustable shade? if so, turn it up to 11 or 12. I weld for 10 hours a day, and leaving the shade at 10 starts to wear on my eyes, so I set the shade at 11. Awesome progress BTW, can't wait to see the finished product

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    Ok, I finally have some progress on the car that is picture worthy. Got the cage in and completely welded into the car. I am now working with my dremel to clean all of the welds up, since this will be the second time this cage has been welded and overlapping welds look really bad.







    I also took the leap and started cutting for the t-tops. I've spent weeks debating this, and I finally decided to take the plunge.

    Started cutting with the dremel wheel


    Prybars work wonders.


    It did not want to come off at all.


    A lot of work ahead of me:





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    Quote Originally Posted by ls1camino View Post
    Ok, I finally have some progress on the car that is picture worthy. Got the cage in and completely welded into the car. I am now working with my dremel to clean all of the welds up, since this will be the second time this cage has been welded and overlapping welds look really bad.

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    I also took the leap and started cutting for the t-tops. I've spent weeks debating this, and I finally decided to take the plunge.

    Started cutting with the dremel wheel
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    Prybars work wonders.
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    It did not want to come off at all.
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    A lot of work ahead of me:
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    Just curious, is the interior already cut out for the t-tops? So if you just cut the outside metal, the inside is already cut for the t's? Sweet!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RONS98TA View Post
    Just curious, is the interior already cut out for the t-tops? So if you just cut the outside metal, the inside is already cut for the t's? Sweet!
    Yep, all I did was remove the fiberglass roof.

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    So does that mean the non-t-tops have the same structural rigidity as the t-tops (save the fiberglass on the top)? I woulve figured that the t-top cars wouldnt have as much rigidity. But those pictures might suggest something else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whamhammer View Post
    So does that mean the non-t-tops have the same structural rigidity as the t-tops (save the fiberglass on the top)? I woulve figured that the t-top cars wouldnt have as much rigidity. But those pictures might suggest something else.
    Well, the hardtops have the two bars that run over the doors, so they are more rigid than t-top cars. This rigidity is nulled when Subframe Connectors and Roll Cages are added to the car, as with my car.

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    Interesting......I learn something new today. I never knew that the hard tops were pre-cut for t tops.


    How will you round the edges on the top seam?

    is that a Wolf 6 point cage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMWS6TA View Post
    How will you round the edges on the top seam?
    What do you mean?

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    Is that a Wolf 6 point cage?
    Yes.

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    he means after you cut the "over door" supports, what will you do with the sharp edges.

    but i believe the answer is that there are caps that fit over them, part of the t-top interior

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    Quote Originally Posted by ls1camino View Post
    What do you mean?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spikito View Post
    he means after you cut the "over door" supports, what will you do with the sharp edges.

    but i believe the answer is that there are caps that fit over them, part of the t-top interior

    The edge along the sail panel in the last pic. In the t top cars that edge rounds over and looks like one piece. Is it still one piece with a little bit of the edge left over that needs to be ground down or are they 2 separate pieces of metal that needs to be tach weld to form a seal?

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    The sail panel is fiber glass and the roof is metal. I cut the fiberglass a little liberal in my favor, so I had some working room. I will have to sand it down, and use some body filler to join the two pieces. I may use some fiberglass to give it some rigidity...I don't know yet.

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    Cut out the door supports:




    As you can see, the brackets for the t-top holders are already there.





    Started working on molding the metal to form what a t-top car would look like. I am highly satisfied with how the rear passenger side turned out. This one side too me 6 hours to get perfect. I'll be painting the metal with POR15 and then putting silicone down to hold the molding.





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