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This is a discussion on Formula vs. Trans am within the Firebird / WS6 forums, part of the Vehicle Specific category; Originally Posted by sdavis2702 i didnt fully understand what you said. so forgive me if i misread. but did you ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sdavis2702 View Post
    i didnt fully understand what you said. so forgive me if i misread. but did you say T/As have ram-air and LS6 intake manifolds?

    TA 01-02 coming with Ws6 package have ram air and LS6 intake manifold.
    98-00 TA don't have the ws6 package.
    the ws6 package will nail an extra 10-15 rwhp over 98-00 TAs stock vs stock

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    Quote Originally Posted by djvaly View Post
    TA 01-02 coming with Ws6 package have ram air and LS6 intake manifold.
    98-00 TA don't have the ws6 package.
    the ws6 package will nail an extra 10-15 rwhp over 98-00 TAs stock vs stock
    wow... didnt know they came with LS6 manis. i thought the extra 10-15hp was flywheel and caused by the ram air

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    Quote Originally Posted by sdavis2702 View Post
    wow... didnt know they came with LS6 manis. i thought the extra 10-15hp was flywheel and caused by the ram air
    actually upto 20 flywheel, more like 10-15rear wheel difference.
    read the newbbie area:
    http://www.ls1.com/forums/f6/
    the differences in fbody years thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djvaly View Post
    actually upto 20 flywheel, more like 10-15rear wheel difference.
    good stuff man. learn something new everyday

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    yea. the ram air is a marketing thing. at 150mph+ you get a lil extra but like 1 hp maybe..

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    that's why the ls6 intake and better flowing catback is actually 15rwhp
    the ram air is bogus. better buy the SLP cai kit (which I have) from in front of the radiator and gain the 5hp .. looks like a sleeper too. zoom zoom zoom.
    PS. save your $800 and don't get the ram hood. shoot get some LT H and Y for that and will nail you 20-25rwhp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by djvaly View Post
    TA 01-02 coming with Ws6 package have ram air and LS6 intake manifold.
    98-00 TA don't have the ws6 package.
    the ws6 package will nail an extra 10-15 rwhp over 98-00 TAs stock vs stock
    Dude, get your info straight before perpetuating mis-information.

    WS6 was an available option on T/As from '96-'02, and on Formulas from '96-'00.

    The LS6 intake manifold that was added to the LS1 engines in '01-02 had NOTHING to do w/ the WS6 package. The LS6 intake helped make the 5HP increase that was seen across the f-bod board in '01+:

    Base Z28, TA & Formula HP = 305 from '98-'00, 310 in '01 & '02

    SS*/WS6 HP = 320 '98-'00, 325 in '01 & '02. (*SLP offered other options for more HP on SS)

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyBs98WS6Rag View Post
    Dude, get your info straight before perpetuating mis-information.

    WS6 was an available option on T/As from '96-'02, and on Formulas from '96-'00.

    The LS6 intake manifold that was added to the LS1 engines in '01-02 had NOTHING to do w/ the WS6 package. The LS6 intake helped make the 5HP increase that was seen across the f-bod board in '01+:

    Base Z28, TA & Formula HP = 305 from '98-'00, 310 in '01 & '02

    SS*/WS6 HP = 320 '98-'00, 325 in '01 & '02. (*SLP offered other options for more HP on SS)
    dude, there may a WS6 package available on 98-00... but u have to pay extra... I'm talking stock.. zzzz.. also 01-02 have ws6 as stock not as an add on perfomance package that's why it is tied with the LS6 intake manifold.
    as far as '96 u talking of LT1 TA cars not LS1... I checked my info and I stand by it, go back and do some research newbbie
    most people will mod their '98-'00 as WS6 by getting ram air hood, LS6 instake and a WS6 emblem on the back,.. ohh big deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djvaly View Post
    dude, there may a WS6 package available on 98-00... but u have to pay extra... I'm talking stock.. zzzz.. also 01-02 have ws6 as stock not as an add on perfomance package that's why it is tied with the LS6 intake manifold.
    as far as '96 u talking of LT1 TA cars not LS1... I checked my info and I stand by it, go back and do some research newbbie
    most people will mod their '98-'00 as WS6 by getting ram air hood, LS6 instake and a WS6 emblem on the back,.. ohh big deal.
    ok u lost me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djvaly View Post
    TA 01-02 coming with Ws6 package have ram air and LS6 intake manifold.
    98-00 TA don't have the ws6 package.
    the ws6 package will nail an extra 10-15 rwhp over 98-00 TAs stock vs stock
    ram airs(ws6) have been around since 1998.
    also a ws6 wont dyno 15 more h.p over a non ws6, its been proven here enough times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by djvaly View Post
    dude, there may a WS6 package available on 98-00... but u have to pay extra... I'm talking stock.. zzzz.. also 01-02 have ws6 as stock not as an add on perfomance package that's why it is tied with the LS6 intake manifold.
    as far as '96 u talking of LT1 TA cars not LS1... I checked my info and I stand by it, go back and do some research newbbie
    most people will mod their '98-'00 as WS6 by getting ram air hood, LS6 instake and a WS6 emblem on the back,.. ohh big deal.
    non 01-02 ls1 cars have the ls6 intakes

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    Quote Originally Posted by nhraformula View Post
    non 01-02 ls1 cars have the ls6 intakes
    what???? noooo the 01-02s have the ls6 intake. the 98-00 have the ls1 intake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shady milkman View Post
    ok u lost me.
    hahahah...
    let me break it down:
    ram air hood has been around I guess previous than '01.. but...

    '98-'00 are regular V8 LS1 TA. they do not have the ws6 package from factory, but may be optional. but most people do slap in the ram air hood and LS6 intake and call it a ws6.

    '01-'02 are the real ws6 where they come out of the factory with the ws6 package installed. which included the ls6 intake, ram air hood and a better catback.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nhraformula View Post
    ram airs(ws6) have been around since 1998.
    also a ws6 wont dyno 15 more h.p over a non ws6, its been proven here enough times.
    more like 10rwhp, but there's some mosnters out there

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    Quote Originally Posted by nhraformula View Post
    non 01-02 ls1 cars have the ls6 intakes
    nope, only 01-02 have ls6 intake. I have a '99 and had the ls1 intake. so do many other 98-00 folks I talk to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djvaly View Post
    hahahah...
    let me break it down:
    ram air hood has been around I guess previous than '01.. but...

    '98-'00 are regular V8 LS1 TA. they do not have the ws6 package from factory as optional. but most people do slap in the ram air hood and LS6 intake and call it a ws6.

    '01-'02 are the real ws6 where they come out of the factory with the ws6 package installed. which included the ls6 intake, ram air hood and a better catback.
    no ws6 was an option for t/as from 98-02.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djvaly View Post
    more like 10rwhp, but there's some mosnters out there
    no they dont really dyno higher, maybe a few. but gm's hi build tolerances scew any type of dyno accuracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shady milkman View Post
    no ws6 was an option for t/as from 98-02.
    word? I looked up GM and they mention nothing of the optional ws6 package 98-00.. that's strange. it may be that the dealer modded them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shady milkman View Post
    no they dont really dyno higher, maybe a few. but gm's hi build tolerances scew any type of dyno accuracy.
    I dyno stock 290rwhp. then I see most ws6 folks claim 300-305rwhp. give or take a few I guess.

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    here's a sticky,, great info. I always go back and check in there
    some of the stuff I guess ws6 is optional for 98-00.. but GM don't say it on their site ?
    Differences between the f-body years

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