Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12
Results 21 to 37 of 37

Decision time...is she worth saving?

This is a discussion on Decision time...is she worth saving? within the Firebird / WS6 forums, part of the Vehicle Specific category; Originally Posted by jagfan93 Doesn't the LS1 have a rep for being kind of a noisy motor anyway? I've noticed ...

  1. #21
    Smiles for 9.5 Years cammed goat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Paterson/Ridgewood, NJ
    Posts
    11,474

    Phantom Black Metallic
    2004 GTO M6

    Quote Originally Posted by jagfan93 View Post
    Doesn't the LS1 have a rep for being kind of a noisy motor anyway?

    I've noticed numerous LS1 cars that ran very strong but also had a knock at idle or mild acceleration.

    My car for example has a noticeable knock below 1000 rpm which disappears above 1000 rpm, I just figured this was common.

    Could the noise just be an unusually louder variation of the 'common' knock? (or am I just wishful thinking).
    Sounds like you are describing the ever-popular LS1 "sewing machine" tick. Normal.

  2. #22
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Florida
    Posts
    40

    Pewter
    2001 Trans Am WS-6

    Well, I got word from the shop. They want 150 to pull the valve covers or 250 to drop the oil pan to look around. I'm hesitant to spen much of anything to "look around", even if the prices are fair (which i'm not sure they are). There had been a rebuilt LS6 on ebay with a 3 yr unlimited warranty, but I guess they are out of stock of LS6 for now. That said, I think I will take the bird home, slap liability insurance on her and go shopping for a DD tomorrow and saturday. I'm hoping to find a 3-5K pick-up somewhere in the SW FL area.

    As for the comment earlier, there was always a softer tick or tap or whatever you may want to call it...the current sound is much much louder, almost embarassing to drive.

    Bottom line, I need transportation and I don't have a month to wait for my bird to come back to life. She'll be parked until I afford to either take the motor apart or just replace it entirely. Thanks everyone for your help and if and when I get to the motor, this will be the first place I look!

  3. #23
    its short but its skinny. jiveass's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    The Woodlands/spring/houston
    Posts
    2,142

    pewter
    99 trans am

    Quote Originally Posted by bull1112 View Post
    Well, I got word from the shop. They want 150 to pull the valve covers or 250 to drop the oil pan to look around. I'm hesitant to spen much of anything to "look around", even if the prices are fair (which i'm not sure they are). There had been a rebuilt LS6 on ebay with a 3 yr unlimited warranty, but I guess they are out of stock of LS6 for now. That said, I think I will take the bird home, slap liability insurance on her and go shopping for a DD tomorrow and saturday. I'm hoping to find a 3-5K pick-up somewhere in the SW FL area.

    As for the comment earlier, there was always a softer tick or tap or whatever you may want to call it...the current sound is much much louder, almost embarassing to drive.

    Bottom line, I need transportation and I don't have a month to wait for my bird to come back to life. She'll be parked until I afford to either take the motor apart or just replace it entirely. Thanks everyone for your help and if and when I get to the motor, this will be the first place I look!
    i like this idea better than getting rid of it.

  4. #24
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Florida
    Posts
    40

    Pewter
    2001 Trans Am WS-6

    I'm hoping to look at an S10 today to use as a DD until I can get the bird running again. Can someone run this vin through a carfax?

    1GCCS19H138262959

  5. #25
    its short but its skinny. jiveass's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    The Woodlands/spring/houston
    Posts
    2,142

    pewter
    99 trans am

    Quote Originally Posted by bull1112 View Post
    I'm hoping to look at an S10 today to use as a DD until I can get the bird running again. Can someone run this vin through a carfax?

    1GCCS19H138262959
    you have pm

  6. #26
    Chief of his tribe! LSCyaL8R's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    NYC
    Posts
    1,460

    Navy Blue Metallic
    2000 T/A Firehawk M6

    S10 you say???? better swap out that 10 bolt

  7. #27
    Car Nut ICRAZY6's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Lacon, Illinois
    Posts
    404

    Black
    2002 Trans Am WS6

    Usually a lifter making noise. Just a simple change in weight of oil helps.

  8. #28
    Spaz is My Mentor SMWS6TA's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Ugy Lower Corner of AL
    Posts
    10,511

    Navy Blue Metallic
    98 T/A w/a little mods...


  9. #29
    Army of 1 wooddaniel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Alachua, Fl
    Age
    36
    Posts
    1,733

    Ignition Orange/Black
    2008 G8 GT, 98 Z28 383

    Quote Originally Posted by bull1112 View Post
    All right guys, I've followed this forum ever since I bought my 01 Pewter WS-6 after college in 2007. She has about 73K on the clock and this past Sunday she developed a loud tap sound. My first inclincation was a lifter and I took into a shop on Tuesday (parked since I first heard the sound, earliest they could see me). They called me today and said they don't think it is a lifter, but that it is on the bottom of the motor, possibly a bearing. He is suggesting he drop the oil pan to check, but tells me that anything he finds wrong would require dropping the shaft and pulling the motor in order to fix. If that is the case, he tells me it will likely cost about as much a just replacing the motor. I knew the repair would be expensive, but I was think around $1-2K, not $5K.

    My question to you all is what should I do?
    A. Fix this motor
    B. Replace this motor
    C. Scrap the car and buy a new one
    D. Drive the car home, park it, buy a new DD and one day fix it (myself or o/w)

    Also, how much could I even get for the car? I'd rather not part it out.
    Where u at in Fl? I know a good shop if you are close to Gainesville.

  10. #30
    Chief of his tribe! LSCyaL8R's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    NYC
    Posts
    1,460

    Navy Blue Metallic
    2000 T/A Firehawk M6

    Quote Originally Posted by SMWS6TA View Post
    check out gm performance parts. There is a dealer in OK selling the whole LS6 long block for $3200.... trust me i'm tempted.

    Same dealer is selling an LS1 for 3k flat.... these aren't reman's or bare blocks.... we are talking full out all inclusive GM crate engines.

    I keep editing this because I can't believe the prices!?!?!?!!!! an LS3, and let's be honest who wouldn't want an LS3, is going for $3,785!!!

    $8,478 for an LS7 btw
    Last edited by LSCyaL8R; 02-26-2010 at 01:02 PM.

  11. #31
    its short but its skinny. jiveass's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    The Woodlands/spring/houston
    Posts
    2,142

    pewter
    99 trans am

    Quote Originally Posted by LSCyaL8R View Post
    check out gm performance parts. There is a dealer in OK selling the whole LS6 long block for $3200.... trust me i'm tempted.

    Same dealer is selling an LS1 for 3k flat.... these aren't reman's or bare blocks.... we are talking full out all inclusive GM crate engines.

    I keep editing this because I can't believe the prices!?!?!?!!!! an LS3, and let's be honest who wouldn't want an LS3, is going for $3,785!!!

    $8,478 for an LS7 btw
    i like those prices for my vette, but i gotta get a new DD before i do anything like that.

  12. #32
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Florida
    Posts
    40

    Pewter
    2001 Trans Am WS-6

    Thanks to everyone for your help and for the carfax. Unfortunately that truck was already sold. I picked up a regular cab 03 Ranger w/ auto and 3.0 v6 and 111k on the clock for $4500 out the door (tax, tag, title) yesterday. When I get the time, I'll probably attack the heads or say screw it and just order an LS6. Either way, I now have what I've always wanted for the bird, time to work on her!

  13. #33
    Army of 1 wooddaniel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Alachua, Fl
    Age
    36
    Posts
    1,733

    Ignition Orange/Black
    2008 G8 GT, 98 Z28 383

    Quote Originally Posted by bull1112 View Post
    Thanks to everyone for your help and for the carfax. Unfortunately that truck was already sold. I picked up a regular cab 03 Ranger w/ auto and 3.0 v6 and 111k on the clock for $4500 out the door (tax, tag, title) yesterday. When I get the time, I'll probably attack the heads or say screw it and just order an LS6. Either way, I now have what I've always wanted for the bird, time to work on her!
    Good luck with your bird! Glad you decided to keep her

  14. #34
    Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Pensacola
    Posts
    174

    Red
    1998 Trans Am WS6

    Well played sir, well played.

  15. #35
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Florida
    Posts
    40

    Pewter
    2001 Trans Am WS-6

    Well all, it's bee a while, but I wanted to post an update and ask one more question. I took the car to a local chevy dealership here in ft myers and they confirmed the sound is on the bottom, definitely mechanical, and likely crank related. I honestly can't justify spending $5-6k on a car worth $11 blue book,maybe $8-9k realistically. I've been told the bearings can be replaced without pulling the motor, but if the crank has been chewed, I'm screwed. Is it worth dropping the oil pan or would it be like the last act of a doomed man?

    The car has been fun, but at some point I have to cut my losses, and being 26, having just bought a house, and getting married 39 days, having a toy that will cost that much for only me to really use is a little selfish, even for me. Thanks for your help!

  16. #36
    its short but its skinny. jiveass's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    The Woodlands/spring/houston
    Posts
    2,142

    pewter
    99 trans am

    Quote Originally Posted by bull1112 View Post
    Well all, it's bee a while, but I wanted to post an update and ask one more question. I took the car to a local chevy dealership here in ft myers and they confirmed the sound is on the bottom, definitely mechanical, and likely crank related. I honestly can't justify spending $5-6k on a car worth $11 blue book,maybe $8-9k realistically. I've been told the bearings can be replaced without pulling the motor, but if the crank has been chewed, I'm screwed. Is it worth dropping the oil pan or would it be like the last act of a doomed man?

    The car has been fun, but at some point I have to cut my losses, and being 26, having just bought a house, and getting married 39 days, having a toy that will cost that much for only me to really use is a little selfish, even for me. Thanks for your help!
    well, sell it for what you can get out of it....someone out there will be proud to own that car...just dont junk it.

  17. #37
    Member Fearls1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Verdigris, OK
    Age
    35
    Posts
    289

    MRM
    2002 T/A M6

    If you are gonna let a shop look around for hundreds... atleast grace us on the board with a short sound clip of the tapping/knocking. Maybe we can save you some hard earned money.
    3" MagnaFlow CatBack w/Corsa (clone)Tips, Lloyds Custom Floor Mats, SLP Lid, Pro 5.0 W/ Lou's SS, 7.5" Eaton Locker w/3.73, KYB AGX, BMR LCA's, FRA, SSE, 5% Tint, 18x9 C5 Rims w/Falken 452

Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. Z28 Ready for Blower-Worth your time
    By GoldenEagle in forum Vehicles For Sale / Trade
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 02-20-2011, 06:35 AM
  2. Question: is Zaino really worth the time/Money?
    By Adam_WS6_ in forum Showcar and Detailing
    Replies: 24
    Last Post: 11-15-2008, 06:26 PM
  3. 383 Stroker is it worth my money and time?
    By 99Ls1fever in forum Internal Engine
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 09-04-2007, 07:53 AM
  4. Decision time...
    By SOMSS in forum Camaro / SS
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 09-11-2006, 10:45 PM
  5. Saving Gas???
    By JwMonE99 in forum V6
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 08-24-2006, 01:02 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •