Challenger SRT8..disappointed

**Ramairgod84** · 11-20-2008, 11:46 AM

So I went up a new challenger srt8 with me only having shorty headers, exhaust, lid, filter...and I had him by a half a car. It's funny how even these new 400 something hp cars cant take our cars...they dont make'em like the used to

**NavdeepWS6** · 11-20-2008, 11:49 AM

was it from a dig or a roll cause i lost to one on the highway from a 55 roll i also had a passenger he didnt and i dropped into 3rd not 2nd like i should have

**Ramairgod84** · 11-20-2008, 12:05 PM

it was from a roll. he had the jump on me. from about 50 and i quick reeled him in and took him. I went down to 3rd cuz i didnt know how high the revs would go from second. I'm still getting used to this car from the vette. neither of us had passengers

**clg82** · 11-20-2008, 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by Ramairgod84

it was from a roll. he had the jump on me. from about 50 and i quick reeled him in and took him. I went down to 3rd cuz i didnt know how high the revs would go from second. I'm still getting used to this car from the vette. neither of us had passengers

Good kill!! I am always intimidated by the horsepower numbers that the companys come out with. Until I really see what they got and them i'm like ehh..... They are heavy though!!

**Ramairgod84** · 11-20-2008, 04:27 PM

beautiful car, im sure they'll be nice once they're modded, but they're certainly heavy. I felt bad for the guy tho lol

**clg82** · 11-20-2008, 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by Ramairgod84

beautiful car, im sure they'll be nice once they're modded, but they're certainly heavy. I felt bad for the guy tho lol

I'd be pretty embareassed if i got my ass handed to me by a 8+ year old car lol

**NavdeepWS6** · 11-20-2008, 05:28 PM

i wish i coulda beat him he had a full exhaust on his but i probably dont even stand a chance now cause he said he was going to throw on a supercharger and my friend lost his number

**cobrakiller99** · 11-20-2008, 06:05 PM

how do you guys think one of us against a challenger from a dig?

**wooddaniel** · 11-20-2008, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by cobrakiller99

how do you guys think one of us against a challenger from a dig?

Stock, the challenger SRT8 will usually win by 1/2 a car (I dont want to start a shitstorm; Im talking STOCK with two good drivers.). Modded, you got em easy. They have just as much of an issue with traction as we do with our cars. I ran one to 75 the other day in my GTO from a dig and it was pretty much even (he may have had me by a hair) He may have beaten me if he hadn't spun through first. The R/T, it's a driver's race stock. They are running between 13.3-14 stock here.

**clg82** · 11-20-2008, 07:12 PM

Originally Posted by wooddaniel

Stock, the challenger SRT8 will usually win by 1/2 a car (I dont want to start a shitstorm; Im talking STOCK with two good drivers.). Modded, you got em easy. They have just as much of an issue with traction as we do with our cars. I ran one to 75 the other day in my GTO from a dig and it was pretty much even (he may have had me by a hair) He may have beaten me if he hadn't spun through first. The R/T, it's a driver's race stock. They are running between 13.3-14 stock here.

Plus they weigh about 4,000 lbs more but besides that.................

**cobrakiller99** · 11-20-2008, 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by wooddaniel

Stock, the challenger SRT8 will usually win by 1/2 a car (I dont want to start a shitstorm; Im talking STOCK with two good drivers.). Modded, you got em easy. They have just as much of an issue with traction as we do with our cars. I ran one to 75 the other day in my GTO from a dig and it was pretty much even (he may have had me by a hair) He may have beaten me if he hadn't spun through first. The R/T, it's a driver's race stock. They are running between 13.3-14 stock here.

R/T i think we would win its basically our hp with like 1000 pounds. but i would think the srt8 would be a close race. thanks

**NavdeepWS6** · 11-20-2008, 10:22 PM

its is a close race cause they are heavy and spin alot with traction off but i think they a little bit faster

**wooddaniel** · 11-21-2008, 01:28 AM

Originally Posted by cobrakiller99

R/T i think we would win its basically our hp with like 1000 pounds. but i would think the srt8 would be a close race. thanks

The R/T Weighs 4000 pounds, so its 500 more than our cars roughly.

**cobrakiller99** · 11-21-2008, 08:18 AM

Originally Posted by wooddaniel

The R/T Weighs 4000 pounds, so its 500 more than our cars roughly.

ohhh i heard it was 4400-4500

**1 Bad Ass Formula** · 11-21-2008, 08:50 AM

The Challenger's sound good and look good, but they they are fairly heavy too. Until someone puts down 400HP @3500 lbs or less then it's a close race if not an LS1 win.

**c5z28** · 11-21-2008, 08:57 AM

Originally Posted by Ramairgod84

So I went up a new challenger srt8 with me only having shorty headers, exhaust, lid, filter...and I had him by a half a car. It's funny how even these new 400 something hp cars cant take our cars...they dont make'em like the used to

the problem is they do make them like they used to good power and heavier than a lead brick.

**Ramairgod84** · 11-21-2008, 09:53 AM

this is true. i stand corrected. but they put so much technological bullshit in the newer cars. all the added weight. That's why I like our cars, and even the vettes up to 2005. after that its electronic door handles this and automatic lights that and rain sensoring wipers and stuff that takes away from the driver

**RedVertTA** · 11-21-2008, 10:11 AM

I wouldn't necessarily be so quick to bash these cars for the extra weight, they're heavier because of the new safety components. Cars are being produced with more and more safety components each year. It's a deterrent on performance yes, but there is a trade-off to the weight, its not like it's there for nothing.

Our 4th gens really can't compare in the safety area. As far as weight, its not heavy because its a MOPAR, even the 5th gen Camaro has the same problem, the Zeta is known for being heavy, correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the 5th gen weights about 4000 pounds as well.

What must really suck for both of these cars is the mileage, more power, less aerodynamics thanks to flat, squared off front ends, and heavier bodies.

What is surprising to me from reading this thread is the fact that the Challengers have trouble hooking traction. I figured with all that extra weight on the rear wheel it should have excellent traction. In addition, the tires on the Challenger are quite large, 20 inch rims I believe, and the tubs can fit even bigger, with those kinds of tires traction should improve.

Does anyone have the weight distribution specs for this car? If its very nose heavy it could be putting lots of weight on the front and not enough on the back and that would explain the traction issue.

**egod** · 11-21-2008, 12:15 PM

My cousin just got one of those srt8 Jeeps stock and he says its faster than his modded wrx. Says it pulled 12.1 in the 1/4. Is he full of crap or is there something i'm missing cause if the challenger is lighter then how his that heavy-ass jeep with the same motor that fast?

**clg82** · 11-21-2008, 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by RedVertTA

I wouldn't necessarily be so quick to bash these cars for the extra weight, they're heavier because of the new safety components. Cars are being produced with more and more safety components each year. It's a deterrent on performance yes, but there is a trade-off to the weight, its not like it's there for nothing.

Our 4th gens really can't compare in the safety area. As far as weight, its not heavy because its a MOPAR, even the 5th gen Camaro has the same problem, the Zeta is known for being heavy, correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the 5th gen weights about 4000 pounds as well.

What must really suck for both of these cars is the mileage, more power, less aerodynamics thanks to flat, squared off front ends, and heavier bodies.

What is surprising to me from reading this thread is the fact that the Challengers have trouble hooking traction. I figured with all that extra weight on the rear wheel it should have excellent traction. In addition, the tires on the Challenger are quite large, 20 inch rims I believe, and the tubs can fit even bigger, with those kinds of tires traction should improve.

Does anyone have the weight distribution specs for this car? If its very nose heavy it could be putting lots of weight on the front and not enough on the back and that would explain the traction issue.

I don't think anyone was questioning the safety features of these cars....who cares if they are safer then ours......i guarantee that my car will get more looks any day then those cars........

and mine is 8 years old