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This is a discussion on Car won't Start within the Firebird / WS6 forums, part of the Vehicle Specific category; It's still uploading on my email. It is 21.1 MG. It's only about 15 seconds long. Don't know why it's ...

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    It's still uploading on my email. It is 21.1 MG. It's only about 15 seconds long. Don't know why it's taking this long

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    ok, IT JUST SENT

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    Did it get there Walt?

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    Yep. Got it and responded.

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    It was hard to tell which area it was coming from. It might have been on the passenger side. I was afraid to rev it. But I did rev it very lightly. And the engine is shaking lightly as well.

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    Are all the fuel injector plugs secure? Spark plug wires/coils?

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    yeah, I believe so.

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    I tell you what Walt, I'm having a hard time getting it to start now. I'll let it sit overnight and cool off and start it tomorrow. And tomorrow I will get the whole family to listen to it, and see if they can pinpoint the area it's coming from. I'm about 90 years old!! And I only hear about half of what is directed to me. And I will post here tomorrow.

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    Sounds can be quite difficult to pinpoint. Another set of ears is always a good idea.

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    what kind of sound is it? Missing or something like that?

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    It's a loud knocking sound in the area of no. 6. I tell you what else I noticed. The oil press. gauge and the gauge to it's left were on o! I'm probably going to go ahead and pull of the intake and check the sending unit.

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    loud knock + oil pressure reading 0 - you are looking at a bad bearing.



    You need to pull the oil pan to confirm.

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    loud knock + oil pressure reading 0 - you are looking at a bad bearing.



    You need to pull the oil pan to confirm.

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    All right guys, I've got an update. Took the valve covers off for two reasons, to see if anything under the covers could be making the noise and to see if I had oil. I have oil!! Which is obviously great! So my 0 oil pressure is either a bad oil sending unit or the connection to the unit has come loose. I already have the intake unbolted, so I will be checking that this weekend. Now for the noise; on the #6 cylinder, the exhaust rocker bolt had backed out somehow. I'm starting to think I might have forgotten to torque the bolt. But anyway, the rocker was pushed sideways and banging on the inside top of the valve cover. So that was what the noise was. You guys can't imagine how glad I am that it was something like that and not something worse!!!

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    Glad you got it figured out. Anytime I tear into something complex, I physically touch each nut and bolt and recite "tight" out loud only if I remember actually tightening it during reassembly. If I come to one I can't remember, I then check it. This process sounds kind of stupid but has never failed me yet.

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    Oh man Jeff! It doesn't sound stupid to me at all! From now on, that's exactly what I'm going to do!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cowstandmoto View Post
    Oh man Jeff! It doesn't sound stupid to me at all! From now on, that's exactly what I'm going to do!!!
    that kinda stuff happens to everyone.....I've told this story a dozen times so one more won't hurt. When I was doing my heads/cam I was working on it a little at a time after work. I was putting everything back together one night and got as far as putting the oil pump in, timing chain, ect ect and buttoned the oil pan up. Found a stopping point and went to bed. Right as I'm falling asleep I think " I don't remember taking the rag out of the oil pan". A few days earlier when I pulled the old oil pump I put a rag in the pan to catch that little ass bolt for the pick up tube in case I dropped it. I got back up out of bed and went out to the garage. Sure as shit....the rag was still in the pan. Have you ever heard or saw what happens if you do that? It gets real ugly real fast. Imagine taking a rag and wrapping it around the crankshaft until it shreds it into little pieces of string and then distributes it throughout the motor.

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    Oh wow!!! Yeah, but at least you caught yours!!

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    Glad to hear you got it running and most of it figured out. Keep us updated with your results.

    Also a great story about the rag in oil pan.

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    Thanks Jacob. Will do.

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