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This is a discussion on birds and horses living together within the Firebird / WS6 forums, part of the Vehicle Specific category; I agree,my monte carlo ss is definately not as fun being fwd. Posted via Mobile Device...

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    I agree,my monte carlo ss is definately not as fun being fwd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Y2KPewterSS View Post
    I have always liked the 98 Cobras
    I like them too. Just too bad they are slow as poop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by INMY01TA View Post
    I like them too. Just too bad they are slow as poop.
    Very true, but that could be fixed with some $$$$$

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    Quote Originally Posted by INMY01TA View Post
    I like them too. Just too bad they are slow as poop.
    I hate to say it but with exhaust, cai, and geared (4.30's) They will run door to door with an LS1 that has lid, exhaust, and free mods. Equal drivers of course. My buddy and I used to do this all of the time when we were relatively stock. My WS6 with Borla, lid and some free mods put down 329 rwhp with 319 ft lbs. His '98 Cobra with Flowmaster, cai, and 4.30 gears put down around 315rwhp with a bit more torque. Anyway it was a clear drivers race between us until he got N2O. Then he was ahead easily. I was behind until I did H/C/I. Now he and I both have built blown motors that run damn near equal times again.

    You may be thinking of the '99 models that had some severe power issues. I remember once at a dyno day seeing a guy put a relatively new (10-15k miles) on the dyno and with exhaust and some bolt-ons it barely made 250rwhp. I can't remember but I think there was a recall on some of the 4V heads that year. I am not 100% sure though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Packy View Post
    I hate to say it but with exhaust, cai, and geared (4.30's) They will run door to door with an LS1 that has lid, exhaust, and free mods. Equal drivers of course. My buddy and I used to do this all of the time when we were relatively stock. My WS6 with Borla, lid and some free mods put down 329 rwhp with 319 ft lbs. His '98 Cobra with Flowmaster, cai, and 4.30 gears put down around 315rwhp with a bit more torque. Anyway it was a clear drivers race between us until he got N2O. Then he was ahead easily. I was behind until I did H/C/I. Now he and I both have built blown motors that run damn near equal times again.

    You may be thinking of the '99 models that had some severe power issues. I remember once at a dyno day seeing a guy put a relatively new (10-15k miles) on the dyno and with exhaust and some bolt-ons it barely made 250rwhp. I can't remember but I think there was a recall on some of the 4V heads that year. I am not 100% sure though.
    I remember that fiasco. Ford recalled them, put a new intake, reflashed the PCM, I think something on the exhaust also. I don't remember anything with the heads, tho. Embarassing for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Too Fast View Post
    I remember that fiasco. Ford recalled them, put a new intake, reflashed the PCM, I think something on the exhaust also. I don't remember anything with the heads, tho. Embarassing for sure.

    Yeah it was kind of pathetic when a claimed 320 hp and 317 ft·lb of torque and some with simple bolt ons were barely putting down 250 to the tire. It was fun to race those cars though! It always made for a good story!

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    I just really didn't care for the 99-04 mustang body style,although the termis did look the better than the other 'stangs from 99-04.
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    They can. I had my 6 Birds and my 08 GT 5 speed for a couple of years. ( New Knight Rider conversion) I got rid of the Stang,. I am going to get a 70 Fury or a 72-74 Charger. My husband says I have a Pontiac heart and a Mopar soul. the Birds give you more power for your money than the stang,. Better handeling too. Have fun searching for your steed!!

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    I sold my v6 mustang to get a WS6 haha, no horses and birds living together here

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    I have a 98 TA full bolt ons, stall, MS3 cam, suspension, 18' staggered rims and it's a fun car for the weekends but not much of a commuter car.
    I have a 02 Trailblazer fully loaded for a shop truck and DD but it's kinda boring but looks good and is comfortable also great road trip vehicle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Packy View Post
    I hate to say it but with exhaust, cai, and geared (4.30's) They will run door to door with an LS1 that has lid, exhaust, and free mods. Equal drivers of course.
    I hate to say it but you're wrong by about a half second.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 02transamce View Post
    I have had 4 Mustangs through the years and my wife has only had Firebirds.her ceta is clearly superior to every Mustang GT I have ever owned in every way,but I still want a 96-98 Cobra.so is there anything wrong with have a T/A and a Cobra?
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    i dont think so, everyone has their personal preferences

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    Quote Originally Posted by INMY01TA View Post
    I hate to say it but you're wrong by about a half second.
    I don't know who's right, but the gearing change is a big difference. WIth both geared equally, I would have to side with INMY01TA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 02transamce View Post
    so is there anything wrong with have a T/A and a Cobra?
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    Nope!

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    Quote Originally Posted by INMY01TA View Post
    I hate to say it but you're wrong by about a half second.
    Okay right, I guess I forgot real life experiences here take a backseat to what all the Mustang haters here like to think in fantasy land. So my lid/ exhaust LS1 would run 12.9-13.2 regularly and his '98 geared, cai, exhaust Cobra would do the same. Making any race we had a drivers race. Nice try but they are not a half second slower...

    Schmalgar-You need to take an new avatar pic with your new car in there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Packy View Post
    Okay right, I guess I forgot real life experiences here take a backseat to what all the Mustang haters here like to think in fantasy land. So my lid/ exhaust LS1 would run 12.9-13.2 regularly and his '98 geared, cai, exhaust Cobra would do the same. Making any race we had a drivers race. Nice try but they are not a half second slower...

    Schmalgar-You need to take an new avatar pic with your new car in there.
    Never claimed to be a Mustang hater. Your real world experiences differ from mine. Kudos to your friend, don't have to be dick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by INMY01TA View Post
    Never claimed to be a Mustang hater. Your real world experiences differ from mine. Kudos to your friend, don't have to be dick.

    I am not trying to be a dick. I was just sharing my experiences and there are many other '96-98's that have done the same with the addition of gears and a few bolt-ons. Most Cobra's don't have enough gear and that is why they run a half second slower. Even 4.10's is on the edge of not having enough gear with those cars.

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