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This is a discussion on auto or standard? within the Firebird / WS6 forums, part of the Vehicle Specific category; I would never buy a sports car like an F-Body without a manual transmission. Sure the auto is better for ...

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    I would never buy a sports car like an F-Body without a manual transmission.

    Sure the auto is better for the strip, but the 6-speed makes the car much more fun to drive on the street

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    Quote Originally Posted by sd1971
    i am looking at a 99 ws6 6 speed for 13900 with 64000 miles and a 2001 trans am automatic with 85000 miles, not a ws6 and asking 13900 also. what does it take for an auto car to run with the stick car? i have been looking at all the sites and it seems alot of the fast cars are 6 speed until a point and then switch to th400 or th350. i am going to drive the cars thursday.
    Go with the 99 ws6. it has lower miles and its a stick.
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    manual hands down.

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    automatic, stall it and call it a day. You can eat a hamburger while your racing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ohsofast
    automatic, stall it and call it a day. You can eat a hamburger while your racing.
    A stalled auto is nothing to sneeze at

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    Not even a debate,..6spd,..u lose too much rwhp with an auto

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    i smell bullshit

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    Dude, sorry, but those cars are WAY high. At least from what Ive been lookin at. I bought a 01 TA with 42k on it all options for 14k. Keep shopping.
    Also, I wouldnt have (another) one of these cars with an auto. Ive had 5 now and the fastest of them were both sticks and they were a helluva lot more fun.
    Yea, you can stall and be quicker, but GM's 4l60's are an overheating piece.
    Warning though: you are more likely to break with a 6spd.
    Its just a trade off

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    its a double edged sword. there is no right answer. if your a professional driver get a manual. if your not and want consistance get an auto. auto's w/ stall are bad ass and with all the new parts for 4l60 E's and 700 R4's there getting them to hold 700 hp. if you go over that and want an auto get a th350 or 400 w/ a gear vendors overdrive but be ready to for out the cash. not sure what t56's are holdin these days. 600?? both have there ups and downs, you cant have everything.

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    also you could look into 4l80E's if you start puttin down serious power. theres a company that makes a 4l80E called the Bionic Raptor tahts rated for 1200hp i think.

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    Very true.^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by redline
    i smell bullshit

    Is this a reply to my saying that a stock 6spd gets more rwhp to the ground than an stock auto?

    If so, again, no debating...6spds have less drivetrain loss...and if don't believe me, well the dyno doesn't lie.


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    come on man read the posts it goes both ways, like sid2387 said its like a double edged sword. Dont make assumptions or uneducated statements. personaly ive seen it go both ways theres is no real way to tell. I know that poppin the clutch and doin quarter mile long burnouts is a blast as well as kick ass dognuts, been there done that. And replacing your clutch every three races is also a real blast from the past. but the truth is i can buy a 3500 stall for less than the price of two tires beat the shit out of manual cars all day long all the while keeping consistant ets and chewing on my bigmac. To the original post (buy an auto stall it and enjoy rapeing manuals)

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    Quote Originally Posted by redline
    come on man read the posts it goes both ways, like sid2387 said its like a double edged sword. Dont make assumptions or uneducated statements. personaly ive seen it go both ways theres is no real way to tell. I know that poppin the clutch and doin quarter mile long burnouts is a blast as well as kick ass dognuts, been there done that. And replacing your clutch every three races is also a real blast from the past. but the truth is i can buy a 3500 stall for less than the price of two tires beat the shit out of manual cars all day long all the while keeping consistant ets and chewing on my bigmac. To the original post (buy an auto stall it and enjoy rapeing manuals)
    Agreed, which is why topfuelers have an auto with a hell of a high stall. As for the 'fun' factor, nothing beats having full CONTROL of your tranny.
    It's really just preference, thats the bottom line my man.

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    but again, you'll lose more rwhp through an auto... dyno proven 15-20-fact

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vertiviper
    Not even a debate,..6spd,..u lose too much rwhp with an auto

    rwhp isnt everything.
    i have raced many cars with 50 more h.p and stomped then thanks to a stall.
    its rather hard to catch a stalled car with a decent amount of power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vertiviper
    Is this a reply to my saying that a stock 6spd gets more rwhp to the ground than an stock auto?

    If so, again, no debating...6spds have less drivetrain loss...and if don't believe me, well the dyno doesn't lie.

    line up youre six speed to my stalled 4 speed and lets see what happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vertiviper
    but again, you'll lose more rwhp through an auto... dyno proven 15-20-fact
    missing a gear or blowing the shift is worse than losing some 10-15 h.p.
    15 h.p isnt even a half a car lenght

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    Autos are convienent. I personally could care less whether or not my ETs are consistent at the track. I dont do it for a living. As long as ur having fun.... If i had to drive it everyday in traffic stick would suck but otherwise i prefer it

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    I guess a few are missing the point I was tryin to make. I wasn't sayin which is FASTER. In fact I even admitted that top fuelers use auto's rather than manuals for lower ET's....read a little closer next time.

    But again, and i'll make it a little easier to read this time, i can't draw a piture so maybe this will help:

    PERSONAL PREFERENCE

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