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This is a discussion on Air Lid ??'s within the Firebird / WS6 forums, part of the Vehicle Specific category; I have a 2000 TA without ram air. I came to own a ram air hood off a 2000 TA, ...

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    I have a 2000 TA without ram air. I came to own a ram air hood off a 2000 TA, I would to know what I need to buy to convert my car to make the ram air functional.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mytuneport View Post
    I have a 2000 TA without ram air. I came to own a ram air hood off a 2000 TA, I would to know what I need to buy to convert my car to make the ram air functional.
    borrow a power drill (if you dont already have one) and drill out the 15 maybe 20 at the most rivets holding the plastic baffles inside the hood scoops, the drill bit size you'll need to use is 1/8"...there's 3 baffles, one in the back, that's rectangular shaped, and then 2 up front, closer to the openings of the scoops. the 2 front baffles have glue on them, and after you drill all the rivets out, youll need to pry them off with brute strength or a flat head screwdriver, haha...i recommend taking the honeycomb looking screens on the hood off so you can get your hands in there...its pretty easy, the hardest part is getting the baffles that are glued, off...

    heres what mine looks like with the the JAAM ram air kit. it "seals" the hood to the airlid. I dont know if it does much of anything, but it looks cleaner then putting foam strips or weather stripping. and the kit also come with these little plastic plugs for the rivet holes you drilled out, and you have the option to buy just the aluminum "diverter" plate with the kit as well, witch is really more for looks than performance (bottom picture)



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    My air filter is the one for none ram air car. Will I need to make any changes there.

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    does anyone know about TBYRNE maf's? i have one on my car, came with it but the car was unmodified? i since have heads/cammed an ls1, blew it up, and stuck a 408 stroker lq9 in it, 44lb inj 92mm etc etc and its done really well, even being somewhat small. just wonderin if anyone knows anything about em!! thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by mytuneport View Post
    My air filter is the one for none ram air car. Will I need to make any changes there.
    yeah, im pretty sure youll need to get the trans am ram air box base if you just have a regular trans am or firebird...unless you talking about just your air filter, pretty sure its the same size and you wont need a new one, but the ram air equipped cars have a different base for the air intake

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    Here is a cool lid.....adds 50HP



    Just kidding

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    Quote Originally Posted by mytuneport View Post
    My air filter is the one for none ram air car. Will I need to make any changes there.
    Same filter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mytuneport View Post
    My air filter is the one for none ram air car. Will I need to make any changes there.
    You'll want to obtain the WS6 airbox base that is a couple inches taller than the standard t/a base.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rajiv1998 View Post
    Just get a SLP lid and be done with it. I would also recomend getting a new IAT sensor. When I tried to remove mine IT DIDNT COME OUT!! I was afraid I would break it, then I couldnt use the lid or the factory air box. Went to the Pontiac dealer and got one for like $5 with new seals and everything.
    Found a like-new Blackwing for $195 with working IAT sensor so I grabbed it. Slapped a new 'Ram Air Pontiac' decal on it and it looks great under the CETA's hood. Fits perfectly and seems even thicker & stronger than the original lid.

    Ran it on a Dynojet and went from prior all original car 310.13 rwhp / 323.92 rwtq to 315.27 rwhp / 331.10 rwtq with the blackwing, nice little gain for such a quick swap and solid piece.

    Thank you everyone for all the helpful information!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jagfan93 View Post
    You'll want to obtain the WS6 airbox base that is a couple inches taller than the standard t/a base.
    Except GM has discontinued that part. Need to search egay or similiar to find one.

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    ok so i have been thinking about changing lids on my 02 ram air i am thinking about going with a whisper lid, but what is the deal with the blackwing why are these so popular and do the look diffrent i dont think i have ever seen one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Too Fast View Post
    Except GM has discontinued that part. Need to search egay or similiar to find one.
    Too-Fast is right, I keep a spare that I found at a swap meet since they're hard to find, I just figured you may as well start looking and keeping your eyes open for one.

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    Been discussed here many times, you don't need to change you MAF until ~500 HP. Put that $$$ to subframe connectors.

    Best advice so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carnut7202 View Post
    ok so i have been thinking about changing lids on my 02 ram air i am thinking about going with a whisper lid, but what is the deal with the blackwing why are these so popular and do the look diffrent i dont think i have ever seen one.
    The Blackwing was available as original equipment on some Firehawks & SS Camaros, I think it was the only other o/e lid besides the standard lid.

    o/e strength + o/e fit + o/e look were important to me so it was worth paying twice as much as other new lids for a used Blackwing, Dynojet comparisons showed an increase of 5 rwhp & 8 rwtq on my otherwise stock car which is decent but I've been told the new lids can produce more.

    Here's a pic of it on my car, it almost looks stock (even has those little slotted 'boxes' around the outer edge like original) except the original black plastic baffles have been removed from behind it.


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    ok cool so its kind of like a stock high performasnce lid right??? and i guess slp made it right? but it does look good on the car now if i can find one humm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by carnut7202 View Post
    ok cool so its kind of like a stock high performasnce lid right??? and i guess slp made it right? but it does look good on the car now if i can find one humm?
    Right, there's one on ebay now currently at $107.50

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    any one have experience with lingenfelter's lid? and does a ws6 box bolt up the same to a regular t/a, im guessing it uses the same air filter im fixen to get K&N's higher flowing filter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mytuneport View Post
    I have a 2000 TA without ram air. I came to own a ram air hood off a 2000 TA, I would to know what I need to buy to convert my car to make the ram air functional.
    I am also having hard time to look for the proper converter so that my car's ram air will work properly.

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    The ws6 lower airbox is the only thing thats different with the ram air setup on ws6s besides the hood

    There are several kits that help the ram air hood work more efficiently like the JAAM kit which is the only one i can think of off the top of my head right now.

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