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This is a discussion on Air lid Question within the Firebird / WS6 forums, part of the Vehicle Specific category; I just bought a whisper lid and I am having problems with it staying locked on the air box.I was ...

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    Air lid Question

    I just bought a whisper lid and I am having problems with it staying locked on the air box.I was wondering if anyone else had similar problems.It will lock on one side, but when you go to line up the other side it pulls out. It's like it just is not wide enough.

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    I already did that , I was going to look at it again during the day time , I was tinkering around it in the dark w/ a flashlight. I will loosen everything and see how it does. Thank you for the quick response
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    yes! i had a bunch of problems with lids, the problem is the lid doesnt line up correctly, you could force it closed but it wouldnt seal properly.

    if loosening everything doesnt work you need to grind some of one of the sides of the lid about a centimeter, use a dremel or some type of grinder to keep it neat

    you need to be worried about sucking up unfiltered air.

    make sure you get a gasket or just go with a stock paper filter, the paper filters have huge gaskets compared to K&N or blackwing,

    i ended up just making my own gasket to seal my cold air induction tight.

    the fit is worst right where the lid turns into the intake tube. just make sure you put something down first before you put the filter on. double up on the aft towards the engine.

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    Make sure it's pushed all the way back, and the front of the lid is inside the lower lip of the airbox. There's a whisper lid install on www.installuniversity.com

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    I really appreciate all the quick responses guys

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    I had the same problem with an SLP lid make sure the new lid comes over your lower airbox lip and it should slip on in five minutes. I only know this because i thought the K&N air filter was thicker than the factory air filter and i cut about a half inch off the K&N filter seal, that did not work and i ruined a $65.00 dollar filter. your new lid should fit over your existing lower airbox frame dont try to fit it inside your lower airbox thats not right.

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    so your saying your filter was too big,? thats interesting bc mine was too small even with the included gasket, maybe theyve changed styles.

    mine is an slp lid, with a k&n filter, but i had to use two tubes of gasket stuff to seal up my CaI

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    no what im saying is that there was no modifications needed to put the lid on. i was just being a meatball and was not paying attention then got pissed off and cut my $65.00 K&N filter for no reason. the SLP lid goes on with no trimming of the filter or lid. it seems like the aftermarket lids will slip into the lower airbox frame, but they dont, it goes over the lower airbox frame then clip down from there. once i figured it out i felt really dumb. but thats what happens when your in a rush to feel some power gains. by the way i had to replce the K&N filter with a new one because after i cut the old one and got the lid on the right way there was a big gap around the lid and filter,the inside, needless to say it was useless .

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    if your still not sure what im saying refer to GM HIGH-TECH PERFORMANCE november 2006 volume 12 #9 7 hot LS1 airlids dyno and track tested. all lids installed in 5 minutes and all had about the same gains no trimming was needed to filtesr or lids.

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    strike that! the front of the lids do go inside lower airbox frame.

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    lol the edges overlap, the middle front part of lip tucks inside ill go take a picture, but i still had to make my own gasket to properly seal the induction. i bet if you checked, youd see your sucking up fine particles, run your finger along the inside of the bellow or maf.

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    i did check it after the install and there didnt seem to be any gaps, but i will check the maf for fine particles.

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    I appreciate all of the response, I got it on, I put the front lip of the lid inside the lower front lip of the bottom , it cost me some skin , but the lid locks down now

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    i bet that after you run it for a while, it will pop back out. you might want to do i few WOT runs and recheck it, to make sure it doesnt pop back out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sobaka79 View Post
    i bet that after you run it for a while, it will pop back out. you might want to do i few WOT runs and recheck it, to make sure it doesnt pop back out.
    i have found this to be the case myself........i check it regularly

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    so, uh, how the fuck did you two get it to stick? i had to fucking glue the entire cold air induction together. im thinking about getting the K&N FPK thing that gets rid of the lid, just becuase of this...

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    well i didnt have any trouble with mine, slp lid and k&n filter im also running a velocity below and bottom feed ram air thru the same setup, it seems to me it would help if you take the air filter out and test fit it that way then heat the edges of the air filter just a little and it will shrink.

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    heat the SLP lid, brilliant!!
    in the oven you go

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    not the air lid!!!!!!! the k&n filter edges will shrink with a little heat. i wouldent suggest using your moms good bakinging pan or using an oven.

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