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This is a discussion on 99 formula ws6 conversion questions within the Firebird / WS6 forums, part of the Vehicle Specific category; i am wondering - i am parting out a '99 ws6 car and it seems that there were only 175 ...

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    99 formula ws6 conversion questions

    i am wondering - i am parting out a '99 ws6 car and it seems that there were only 175 formula ws6 coupes done in '99 - is this right ? i am confused about the car having "trans-am" logo's on the doors, and the center of the taillight -( wouldn't it say - formula ? ) the sticker on the door says WS6 & WS9 right next to it - i am wondering if i should hang on to this car afterall ? - who can tell me the ASC # info ?? please help - would like to save it if possible !
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    Are you sure it's "just" a Formula and not a T/A (which "started life" as a Formula)? What's the front facia and wing look like? The TransAm on the door and tail indicates a T/A. I believe both T/As and Formulas will have the WS9 code (maybe just T/As, I can't seem to remember if WS4 or WS9 was the T/A code).

    PRODUCTION NUMBER BREAK-DOWN FOR 1999 WS6 FORMULAS !!!

    TOTAL 175

    10U (White) - 16
    11U (Pewter Metallic) - 20
    13U (Silver Metallic) - 13
    28U (Navy Blue Metallic) - 27
    41U (Black) - 79
    81U (Bright Red) - 20

    Automatic (MX0) - 62
    6-Speed Manual(MN6) - 113
    MN6 with BBS (Hurst Shifter) 12

    GU5 3:23 axle 62
    NW9 Traction Control 91

    T-Tops 107
    Hardtop 68

    INTERIOR:
    Pewter Cloth (14B) - 96
    Pewter Leather (143) - 58
    Neutral Cloth (52B) - 12
    Neutral Leather (523) 9

    U1S 12 CD Changer 26

    RADIO:
    W53 20
    W54 35
    W55 120

    1SA 61
    1SB 94
    1LE 20

    AG1 Power Driver Seat 118
    AU0 Keyless Entry 139
    And......

    1999 total: 36209
    Firebird 17170 coupe; 1245 vert; 18415 total
    Formula 1427 coupe; 175 WS6 coupe; 1602 total
    Trans Am 10343 coupe; 1027 vert; 3820* WS6 coupe; 1002** WS6 vert; 16192 total
    * this includes 1065 30th anniversary WS6 coupe
    ** this includes 535 30th anniversary WS6 vert

    Johnny B - '98 "Triple Black" WS6 Convert, M6, All Options, ASC #3030 (1 of 50)
    KBDDSFC, DGM C/F Tonneau, MTI C/F Lid, K&N, HPP-III, 160 T-stat, Pro 5.0
    Link to Firebird Production Breakdowns

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    WS9 is the upgrade to the Formula, Y82 is the upgrade to the TA(but it would also have the WS9 code) - both could have the WS6 RPO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick99TAWS6 View Post
    WS9 is the upgrade to the Formula, Y82 is the upgrade to the TA(but it would also have the WS9 code) - both could have the WS6 RPO
    i did find somewhere on the net that claimed WS4 was the code to convert the trans-am and WS9 was the code to convert the formula

    should i assume that whatever life they started out as ( formula or trans-am ) that they BOTH ended up with Trans-Am badging as part of the WS6 package ???????

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    WS6 adds Ram Air Induction system, functional air scoops, 17" high polished aluminum wheels, P275/40ZR17 speed rated tires, Specific low restriction dual outlet exhaust system, and specific tuned suspension..... WS9 jumps to a Formula.. and like said the Y82 jumps it up to a Trans Am.. so if its a Formula WS6.. it should NOT have Y82 in the build sheet.
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    All V8 Birds will have WS9 Conversion code *
    All Formula's will have the WS9 and the W66 codes
    All Trans Am's will have the WS9 and the Y82 codes
    *WS9 is called the Formula conversion package but it really just indicates that it is a V8 Firebird. The W66 and Y82 codes would have to be present to indicate what model (Formula or Trans Am) it actually is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KITTvsKARR View Post
    WS6 adds Ram Air Induction system, functional air scoops, 17" high polished aluminum wheels, P275/40ZR17 speed rated tires, Specific low restriction dual outlet exhaust system, and specific tuned suspension..... WS9 jumps to a Formula.. and like said the Y82 jumps it up to a Trans Am.. so if its a Formula WS6.. it should NOT have Y82 in the build sheet.
    thanks for the response guys - this car has WS6 & WS9 - and DOES NOT HAVE Y82 - so i am assuming that this means it is one of the 175 formula WS6 cars for 1999 and 1 of the 20 red cars

    ( i think it's worth saving !!! ) -= thanks again

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9T8W66 View Post
    All V8 Birds will have WS9 Conversion code *
    All Formula's will have the WS9 and the W66 codes
    All Trans Am's will have the WS9 and the Y82 codes
    *WS9 is called the Formula conversion package but it really just indicates that it is a V8 Firebird. The W66 and Y82 codes would have to be present to indicate what model (Formula or Trans Am) it actually is.
    I stand corrected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LS1W View Post
    thanks for the response guys - this car has WS6 & WS9 - and DOES NOT HAVE Y82 - so i am assuming that this means it is one of the 175 formula WS6 cars for 1999 and 1 of the 20 red cars

    ( i think it's worth saving !!! ) -= thanks again
    How could it be a formula when it has trans am decals all over it???? Does it have a high rise spoiler? Does it have the bumpers of a ta or a formula??

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    Real easy to put on a $12 taillight cover bird graphic, and evilbay the door names.. and poof.. looks like a T/A..lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2000pontiac6 View Post
    How could it be a formula when it has trans am decals all over it???? Does it have a high rise spoiler? Does it have the bumpers of a ta or a formula??
    The new question is does it have the W66 Formula Merchandise package RPO ?
    If it does and still has T/A emblems and such someone could have tried to make it a T/A.

    Curious

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    but he still hasnt answered which bumpers he has or if hes got the high rise spoiler.. correct?

    Sure someone could make it into a ta, as retarded as that may be, i hope thats not the case. All of the original parts would be lost as well

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    But he did say it doesn't have the Y82 RPO code... which would answer the question.

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    i need production number breakdown for 2000 formula hard top. it is pewter with hurst 6 speed. any help would be appreciated. thanx gtoman.

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    Funny thing is... if you check his post parting out the car... he shows the RPO codes... and it DOES HAVE Y82... the car is a TRANS AM... not a RED FORMULA WS6!

    Doesn't matter since he parted it out anyways... but it wasn't a Formula WS6...

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    only 13 '99 WS6 Formulas made? COOL!
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    Yeah... how weird is that... Paint Option for Silver... was 13... and they only made 13 of them! Spooky!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Schotz View Post
    Yeah... how weird is that... Paint Option for Silver... was 13... and they only made 13 of them! Spooky!!!
    13 is my lucky number I would have guessed more than 13 as silver is a pretty popular color, but it is the least painted color on that list...but that's cool with me, might be worth something someday if 4th gens ever get any collectors value...

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    Yeah... I'm trying to get the vin/model breakdown for the 20 1LE's! I have the first one of the 20 built in '99... It's a White 1LE that I bought new in '98... but GM went on strike... thus putting my order into the '99 Model Year!

    Back in the Day... ASC had told me it was the 1st Formula WS6 Conversion they did (For '99) don't know how many Trans-Am's may have been before it... I'm trying to get an ASC number now... my VIN ends in 00794

    But back then they said it was the 1st Hardtop, 1st 6spd & obviously First 1LE, and Formula they did for 1999! I'd like to know out of the 20 WS6 1LE's how many were white! I know of at least one other... so it's probably going to be half a dozen or so!

    Another rare option is the Hurst Shifter... that was a late '99 model year introduction... as to why only 12 cars came with it!

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