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96 Trans am or 98 Z28 cant decide

This is a discussion on 96 Trans am or 98 Z28 cant decide within the Firebird / WS6 forums, part of the Vehicle Specific category; Originally Posted by c5z28 One more thing LS-1 z28 310 hp mustang gt 265, most people cant shift consistently fast ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by c5z28 View Post
    One more thing LS-1 z28 310 hp mustang gt 265, most people cant shift consistently fast in 6spds anyway, if you get the ls-1 mustangs will run away from you either a chick is driving it and will ignore you or some guy has an auto with only 3 gears (no overdrive) and they cant go over 90.
    Sorry to hijack for a minute but this is like the 3rd time i've read on these forums that mustangs won't go over 90 with an auto.... what kind of mustangs are we talking about? My mark VIII has the same auto thats been in every mustang since 95 the 4R70W and it has a full mechanical lockup 4 speed trans. the lockup only works in 3rd and 4th. A mark VIII with its computer limiter deactivated will hit 150 before hitting a second limiter designed to protect the drivetrain. if your car is well set up and can handle it and you have the guts to deactivate the second limiter a 4R70W will hang with you in excess of 180mph.... in fact in 1993 the Mark VIII took the world land speed record for a car in its class using all stock parts. only mods were using the air suspension to lower the car 20mm using corvette wheels, removing the rear brakes and side mirrors. the engine was a production piece that was balanced and blueprinted to ensure it wouldn't blow up at those speeds and the trans used parts from the factory bins that were selected for close tolerances.... again to ensure nothing went pop on the runs. this car ran a certified two way average speed of 181mph.

    So again.... what auto mustang can't go over 90? If I am unaware of something about mustangs please enlighten me. Mark's are my area of expertise. Since the mark shares most of its components with the stang I feel the same info would apply in most cases.

    Back on topic. Go with the LS1. i prefer the bird's myself but if you simply must buy now the LS1 is the better choice.

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    Well i whent to test drive the z28 and the body was nice but the headlights started to get that film shit over them, And the interior was ok but had some burn holes in the interior. When driving the car it was pretty quick but i heard a ticking noise from the rear end almost like hearing a peice of metal shaking up in a glass jar. So i dont think im going to buy the z28 dont wanna spend $4500 and the rear end go out, no thanks. Later in the day me and my friend took his truck to his mechanics house and i saw a 1996 Trans Am all black 6spd for sale and he also has a 1993 Camaro Z28 for sale. The cars are owned but an older guy in his late 40's or so. He said he doesnt wanna sell the Trans Am or the camaro but he wants to put a Ls6 in his GTO he is building, plus he already has 4 other cars. The Trans Am has 122k miles its in near perfect condition no dents or dings the leather interior is flawless it has some minor scratches on the front right headlight and on the lower passenger door. nothing a buff cant take out. He is asking $4600 but he will negotiate on the price. He started the car up and it sounds so good for the factory exhaust. he gave it a nice rev. and sounds so sweet. When he started it it started right up no whines or ticking nor knocking noise. He would have taken me for a test drive but he didnt want to move the camaro nor his other car. He said let him know when i get some money and he will let me drive the car. make sure everything is in working order. I think im gonna look more tords This Trans Am unless i find another z28 Ls1 for under $5000 that doesnt have any problems.

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    you go to ls1.com and ask if a ls1 is better than a lt1. power and opti are the onlythings lacking on the lt1. but it still a hell of a car! plus i built mine up for around 4k that would kill bolt on ls1's


    p.s. i went to the dark side with the ls2 gto!

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    Get LS1 is great motor. Oh and if u decided to sell ur car one day it's worth more. LT1 is very old engine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Y2KPewterSS View Post
    Easy choice, the Z28 since it has an LS1.
    BINGO!!

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    ls1 .they only made the lt1 for 5yrs and havent made them 10 yrs. my son has a 94z lt1 130k its a great car and the motor is very strong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 95Fyrebyrd View Post
    Ive been looking for a car now for the past two months that i can afford. I found a 1995 Pontiac Trans Am dark purple. it has 95k miles on it, leather, power everything, t-tops, automatic the body has some scratches but can prolly be buffed out. The owner said the driver seat is completely fucked, i figure i could find another on here or at a junk yard. The other car i found is a 1998 Chevy Camaro z28, it has 112k miles, automatic, T-tops, cloth seats. The body of the camaro is pretty clean but it does have some scratches on it. I cant decide which one. The Trans Am is $4000 and the Z28 is $4600. Figure i might be able to get a little help from the forum.
    are you looking for an lS1 or lT1 car

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    I figured since the guy above me brought this thread back from the dead...

    I'd just like to point out the fact that my LT1 is probably by far more stout than anyone elses LS1 that posted on this thread. If you've got the money to open the motor up LT1's are downright nasty.

    Quote Originally Posted by 440 rwhp trans am View Post
    you go to ls1.com and ask if a ls1 is better than a lt1. power and opti are the onlythings lacking on the lt1. but it still a hell of a car! plus i built mine up for around 4k that would kill bolt on ls1's


    p.s. i went to the dark side with the ls2 gto!
    Really? For that 4k you could have wen't with an LE3 kit and killed heads/cam ls1's instead.


    Now for the O.P., which one did you ever go with?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cayenne97 View Post

    I'd just like to point out the fact that my LT1 is probably by far more stout than anyone elses LS1 that posted on this thread. If you've got the money to open the motor up LT1's are downright nasty.
    For the same amount of money, couldn't you make an LS1 be even quicker than an LT1? Mod for mod, price for price, I'm pretty sure the LS1 is all around better. With money, you can make a cardboard box with wooden wheels fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aetos View Post
    For the same amount of money, couldn't you make an LS1 be even quicker than an LT1? Mod for mod, price for price, I'm pretty sure the LS1 is all around better. With money, you can make a cardboard box with wooden wheels fast.
    The LS1 is actually more expensive to mod than the LT1, so to answer your question, No. Like said, once you open the motor up the LT1 is very capable. My '97 is sitting at 440rwhp with the stock stroke.

    I love both engines, that's why I own one of each. I can have my cake and eat it too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cayenne97 View Post
    The LS1 is actually more expensive to mod than the LT1, so to answer your question, No. Like said, once you open the motor up the LT1 is very capable. My '97 is sitting at 440rwhp with the stock stroke.

    I love both engines, that's why I own one of each. I can have my cake and eat it too!

    How much money was put into it mod wise? just wondering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aetos View Post
    How much money was put into it mod wise? just wondering.
    On the motor between 5 and 6 grand. Over $10k invested in total mods.
    Last edited by Cayenne97; 11-11-2008 at 09:38 PM.

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    I just recently bought a 2000 Z and love it. I had a 90 mustang gt with bolt ons that i thought was pretty fast until I bought the z. Go with LS1 you wont be disappointed

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2KZ28 View Post
    I just recently bought a 2000 Z and love it. I had a 90 mustang gt with bolt ons that i thought was pretty fast until I bought the z. Go with LS1 you wont be disappointed
    What color was your '90? I had a white 1990 25th anniversary GT, with the red half cloth/half leather interior. That car was damn clean.

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    i was racing a guy in a 95 camaro with a few bolt ons and we were doing 35mph rolls and he never got past my rear bumber...both 6 speeds, the only mod i have is the 4.10 gears. 100k on the motor, runs like a champ

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    LS1's are indeed stout. There are many things to consider when two cars are going head to head. Sounds like the guy didn't have enuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cayenne97 View Post
    I'd just like to point out the fact that my LT1 is probably by far more stout than anyone elses LS1 that posted on this thread. If you've got the money to open the motor up LT1's are downright nasty.
    six speed or a4?

    track times?

    and money in your car?

    honest answers..

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    without a power adder of course..(nitrous)

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    Quote Originally Posted by lemons12 View Post
    six speed or a4?

    track times?

    and money in your car?

    honest answers..
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    Over 10 grand invested, not including the car

    I noticed you like to ask people if their track times are quicker than yours. Well yes, mine are MUCH quicker than yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cayenne97 View Post
    Rockland Standard Gear "Viper Spec" T-56 W/ Mc Leod twin-disc

    9.82/131 w/ old 150-shot

    Over 10 grand invested, not including the car

    I noticed you like to ask people if their track times are quicker than yours. Well yes, mine are MUCH quicker than yours.
    without nitrous what do you run

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