93 Trans am vs 98 ws6

**Mike0202** · 05-10-2010, 08:46 AM

My friend has a 93 trans am. At first I thought it was an lt1 but after going for a ride in it I think it may be an lt4. Thing is wicked snappy through the gears. Not sure if it "feels" faster or is faster than my ls1. Who would take it?

Mods are
93
Loudmouth catback

98
Magnaflow catback
Thunderbolt high flow cats
Slp lid

**Zinergy** · 05-10-2010, 08:50 AM

Originally Posted by Mike0202

My friend has a 93 trans am. At first I thought it was an lt1 but after going for a ride in it I think it may be an lt4. Thing is wicked snappy through the gears. Not sure if it "feels" faster or is faster than my ls1. Who would take it?

Mods are
93
Loudmouth catback

98
Magnaflow catback
Thunderbolt high flow cats
Slp lid

You should win, i have had many friends with lt1 cars and they all lost to my ls1 when each was modded simular. One even had 2800 or 3000 stall, drag radials, gears and full bolt ons and i pulled him from a dig.

**shady milkman** · 05-10-2010, 10:18 AM

well if this 93 truely has a lt4 in it...it will change the dynamics of the race

**shady milkman** · 05-10-2010, 10:24 AM

lt4s will push near ls1 numbers......so if it is truely a lt4 in that 93..it will come down to driver and gearing

**Zinergy** · 05-10-2010, 10:30 AM

Im pretty sure the only camaros to come with the lt4 options were 96 and 97 SSs and even then it was still an option the 96/97 could still have the lt1. And only the 97 firehawk had the lt4 for the firebird line up. Eitherway im pretty sure the lt4 was only an option in 96+ top of the line f-bodys.

**shady milkman** · 05-10-2010, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by Zinergy

Im pretty sure the only camaros to come with the lt4 options were 96 and 97 SSs and even then it was still an option the 96/97 could still have the lt1. And only the 97 firehawk had the lt4 for the firebird line up. Eitherway im pretty sure the lt4 was only an option in 96+ top of the line f-bodys.

doesnt mean a swap or a lt4 kit has not been used

**shady milkman** · 05-10-2010, 10:39 AM

to the op..the lt1 has a torqueier feel to it compared to the ls1...my friends impala ss feels like it is faster than my ls1..but rest assured it is not...just race..9.99 times out of 10

the ls1 will beat the lt1

**Zinergy** · 05-10-2010, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by shady milkman

doesnt mean a swap or a lt4 kit has not been used

lol true but we dont just assume a ls6 swap or kit was used on all ls1 cars.

**shady milkman** · 05-10-2010, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by Zinergy

lol true but we dont just assume a ls6 swap or kit was used on all ls1 cars.

troof!

**ftb28** · 05-11-2010, 01:23 AM

gaw i learn so much new stuff everyday just by reading what all you guru's write on this forum lol

**UH60Driver** · 05-11-2010, 02:49 AM

Originally Posted by ftb28

gaw i learn so much new stuff everyday just by reading what all you guru's write on this forum lol

Agree. Thanks to all of the knowledge shared around the forums, and it provides a wonderful way to use my time throughout down days over here

**gnomee** · 05-11-2010, 06:09 AM

Your LS1 should take it no problem.

My buddy used to have a 93 z28 with 3.73 gears and well maintained engine. It was always fast until I got my 98 Formula.

We raced when my car was still stock and I smoked him from a dig or rolling.

**RyanJM** · 05-11-2010, 11:48 PM

The LT4 package is nice but no LS1.

**nvmybird** · 05-12-2010, 08:39 PM

I used to have a 93 6 speed ta, intake, 4:10 gears, long tubes, full 3" exhaust, msd wires, so on and so on, the best i could get it to do in the quarter was 13.4, not bad out of a lt1, in sep i bought a 01 ws6, sub frame conecters,lowered,4:10,msd wires full 3" with cutout,and a few of the "free b" mods, first trip to the track the car went 12.8....... the numbers say it all, lt1's are fast, ls1's are faster...lol

**bcam12** · 05-17-2010, 08:10 AM

my 02 ws6 beats my buddys lt4 all day. dont think you will have any problems with it.

**Lunatikgixxer** · 05-17-2010, 09:25 AM

i raced an lt1 with bolt ons, stall, 373 gears, heads, and small cam from a 20 roll, smoked him. All i have is external bolt ons and a lid. You should have no problem pulling on him.

**RyanJM** · 05-17-2010, 10:00 PM

Well the LS1 has more power and is a lighter motor being all aluminum as compared to the LT1 iron block. In any equal power and driver race a few pounds can win the race. I've driven a LT4 Vette 6spd and a LT1 Formula and they were both fast just not on par with the LS. This is a GM forum but it's like comparing a old 5.0 Mustang block to the new more powerful 5.0 motor just a much bigger design difference there but same idea. zznew tech and materials brings new power. Just like if you had a LS1 Formula with carbon fiber panels and the fance stuff the new ZR1 Vette has even with the same motor it'd be faster. My favorite mod would be taking a 6 spd auto paddle shifter outta a vette and the LS3 and drop it into my TA.

**shady milkman** · 05-18-2010, 04:30 AM

Originally Posted by RyanJM

Well the LS1 has more power and is a lighter motor being all aluminum as compared to the LT1 iron block. In any equal power and driver race a few pounds can win the race. I've driven a LT4 Vette 6spd and a LT1 Formula and they were both fast just not on par with the LS. This is a GM forum but it's like comparing a old 5.0 Mustang block to the new more powerful 5.0 motor just a much bigger design difference there but same idea. zznew tech and materials brings new power. Just like if you had a LS1 Formula with carbon fiber panels and the fance stuff the new ZR1 Vette has even with the same motor it'd be faster. My favorite mod would be taking a 6 spd auto paddle shifter outta a vette and the LS3 and drop it into my TA.

ask and you shall receive
here

**LSCyaL8R** · 05-18-2010, 07:43 AM

Originally Posted by shady milkman

ask and you shall receive
here

oh that is badass!!!! Paddleshifted LS3 F-body FTMFW! I love my T-56 and I don't see me trading it for something like this but if I had the cash.... yeah I could see me rocking a second TA with one of these as a daily.

**Zinergy** · 05-18-2010, 09:29 AM

I would rather see one with a dual clutch paddle tranny. Your not gonna beat one of those, clutches like a manual but with two computer controlled clutches. 1 for 1st,3rd,5th and another for 2nd, 4th and 6th. So while your hammering on 1st the 2nd clutch is preloaded and ready to engage as soon as the first clutch disengages.