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'02 WS6 vs '98 Cobra

This is a discussion on '02 WS6 vs '98 Cobra within the Firebird / WS6 forums, part of the Vehicle Specific category; A guy at work saw my car and said "I'll take ya in my '98 Cobra." I said ok, you ...

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    '02 WS6 vs '98 Cobra

    A guy at work saw my car and said "I'll take ya in my '98 Cobra." I said ok, you can try, just to be a smart ass. Looked up the specs of both tonight, and saw that the cobra is about 100 pounds lighter, 40 lbs less torque, 25-30 less hp but could do the 1/4 in .7 secs faster? That shouldn't be right should it? It doesn't really matter as his cobra blew up the starter and he needs to replace that to get it back running. Was just curious.
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    Should be a fairly decent race with you pulling a little up top.
    I would think.

    Off the line....is the Cobra a manual or auto??
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    I believe its an auto vs auto.. but didn't get into it that much as I don't really care much for the guy.

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    If so you should be fine.

    You plan on modding the car??
    If so...stall converter.

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    Plans possibly later on down the road... want to make sure I can afford the payments first.. lol. This is the first car I have really had to do payments on, and the first one I have gone through a dealership for (even though It was from a private seller, to get the 5 1/2 year loan I had to get the dealership to buy it from the guy and sell it to me). Like I said, I am VERY happy with the purchase, only thing is the braking issues so far. When I get a chance, I'm going to price out what new front rotors and pads will run me. I was told a transmission cooler is almost a must have as well.. that true? What exactly does a stall converter do? (I thought those were only for manuals)
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    Stalls are only for autos.
    They allow the motor to spin to a higher RPM while holding the brake and gas at the same time. They come in different speeds. They allow you to be in a better powerband when you launch.

    Tranny cooler is a good idea!
    Pads are $80 if you get the stock ones from a dealership. Many other options though.
    If the rotors can be resurfaced they should be about $8 a rotor for resurfacing.

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    98 cobra's generally run around 14.0's, my buddies 96 cobra which is the same car ran 14.20's all day. So you should not have a problem especially top end. Its those 03-04 cobras you better watch out for

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    Found out today his is a sticksshift.. he says he thought he was told it was 320hp.. but I dunno... either way I think I'd have him..if and when we would ever try....

    Whats a decent tranny cooler cost and where/how do I install it? Or should I have a pro do it?
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    Well.. had the dealership look the brakes over today...after they forgot about my car all day.. bastards... anyway, they fouunf both brake pads to be beyond dangerous levels, I think he said one caliper in the front was bad.. causing the steering wheel to turn while braking, the front pads are going, and the front rotors need machining... to the tune of 470 bucks.. <faints> Wouldn't you think the brakes would be something they would check on the SAFETY Inspections that they did 3 days ago??? I really hate people....
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    Default doesn't have the box checked for the sig.

    You need to check "Show your signature" for it to show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KITTvsKARR
    Well.. had the dealership look the brakes over today...after they forgot about my car all day.. bastards... anyway, they fouunf both brake pads to be beyond dangerous levels, I think he said one caliper in the front was bad.. causing the steering wheel to turn while braking, the front pads are going, and the front rotors need machining... to the tune of 470 bucks.. <faints> Wouldn't you think the brakes would be something they would check on the SAFETY Inspections that they did 3 days ago??? I really hate people....
    That is lame, I would expect the pads and rotors to be one of the main checks done in a safety inspection. Since they obviously didn't do that I'd be surprised if they even did this so called "safety inspection" at all!

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    Well.. according to the "inspection sheet" They checked the e-brake and the foot brakes... prob just made sure the brake pedal engaged the brakes.. which is cheapass... I mean $30 bucks isn't exactly cheap either...

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    Do your own brakes....You can get all new rotors and some good pads for less then they're charging for pads and turning the rotors

    As far as the cobra...i've raced a 99 vert with intake/h-pipe and catback, I wasn't impressed at all. I couldn't hook for shit and I still had 2-3 cars on him just up to 70....and it was getting even uglier. But when modded those 4 valvers have some good top-end pull.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KITTvsKARR
    Found out today his is a sticksshift.. he says he thought he was told it was 320hp..
    All cobras are manuals, and a 98 cobra has 305hp. 01' is when they came out with 320 and 03-04' had 390hp

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    Quote Originally Posted by KITTvsKARR
    I believe its an auto vs auto.. but didn't get into it that much as I don't really care much for the guy.
    ALL cobras are stick from the factory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobra2WS6
    All cobras are manuals, and a 98 cobra has 305hp. 01' is when they came out with 320 and 03-04' had 390hp
    My brother's '96 Cobra dynos at 260rwhp, 272rwtq off the bottle...370rwhp, 472rwtq on the juice. Your auto will be easier to launch and drive down the track, and you should have no problem beating him. Make sure he's not on the bottle though....

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