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02 WS6 vs 72 Challenger

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    What do i have to do to beat it?

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    kick yer dad in the nuts and run!

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    440's gonna kick your a$$, no replacement for deplacement. simple as that. ppl thought that 427 vetts were fast, 440 dodge ploaras( 4 door big cop car) would eat them alive, and they were stock. if the 440 is even slightly modded then your really f'ed. i raced my friends at a drag stip a while back and i beat him, but he was running on 3 maybe 4 cylinders with about 60 pds of compressin, and still ran a 15.5. that should be a hint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6sw00 View Post
    you rarely see real drag cars that are manual...
    And you rarely see real drag cars used on the street, which is where the majority of us drive

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6sw00 View Post
    m6 65k on it, ran 13.44 completely stock. beat 06 gto m6 and also 87 grand national with some upgrades..
    you rarely see real drag cars that are manual...
    Aren't all prostockers manuals?

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    I wouldn't be that scared to race him if that thing is close to stock. If it modded alot you never now then. But I would just race him and find out you can always make it faster if you lose!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sommergibile View Post
    Challengers and Cuda's didn't come with 440s past '71. After that the biggest engine was a 360.

    this is both true and untrue. 1971 was indeed the last year of the big block motors available for E-body cars. but, 1972-'73 cars did not get a 360 option. only 318 and 340. in 1974 the only options were 318 and 360.

    this does not mean that the Challenger in question doesnt have a 440 however. that is completely plausible.

    someone up top made a comparison between the Challenger and a 73 Charger? 2 totally different cars. completely different platforms.


    in my estimation, having driven a 74 Cuda 360 for many years, and owning a Trans Am currently, allbeit, not a ws6 model.... you have a chance. but tire spin at the start is where your chance is imo. if the Challenger can hook up, you have little to no chance. "there is no replacement for displacement."

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    I understand that the 360 was not option until 74 I was just stating that after '71 the biggest engine that came in E bodys at any point was the 360. The only reason that I mentioned that was because I thought the person before me had wrote 73 Challenger not Charger. Also I understand you can put any engine in the E bodys I'm going to be putting a heavily modified 383 in to my 72 Barracuda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bguns10 View Post
    I wouldn't be that scared to race him if that thing is close to stock. If it modded alot you never now then. But I would just race him and find out you can always make it faster if you lose!
    a stock 440 is still alot of motor.In a Challenger its gonna be one nasty street car even stock.I can see none of you ever drove any old mopars,i've been in quite a few.They are serious cars trust me.If that Challenger gets any kind of traction its gonna be long gone.You realize the 440 were in the 400 hp 480 tq range???? this is gonna seriously stomp the livin sheet outta anything except a fully modded ls1.Do you know how 480 ft lbs of tq can move a car?Tell you what take your car and divide its weight by it hp and tq ,then compare it to the Challenger same way.HOLD ON TO YER LUG NUTS,ITS TIME FOR A OVERHAUL!

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    If you read more closely you will see that the 2 people that replied before you have driven Mopars. I have had 2 and my dad has owned at least 5 these include a 66 Coronet 383 RR, 69 Dart GT, 71 Dart Swinger with a 440, and a 72 Barracuda.

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    i know of a "stock" 67 383 magmun charger that i refuse to ride in.I like clean shorts!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sommergibile View Post
    If you read more closely you will see that the 2 people that replied before you have driven Mopars. I have had 2 and my dad has owned at least 5 these include a 66 Coronet 383 RR, 69 Dart GT, 71 Dart Swinger with a 440, and a 72 Barracuda.
    and you mention this because?????

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    Quote Originally Posted by YoMommasTA View Post
    I can see none of you ever drove any old mopars,i've been in quite a few.
    Thats why.

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    i'm a lesbain

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    Just race and let us know how it turns out

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    to beat him, a 3500 rpm stall, a cam in the 230 range, dynotune and sticky tires.
    if you can afford heads, do them also.

    ive raced alot of old muscle and ass raped them.
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    About how much would this all cost me?

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    If your LS-1 is stock then it would probably run low 13's- about the same as a challenger equipped with a stock 440. Remember a challenger still weighs 3500-3600 with a big block in it so its no lightweight racecar. I f its a stock 72 -440 its kind of a pig. I have a 1969 dodge superbee with a warmed over 440 with a 6-pack that runs 11.60's--But--I also owned a bone stock ws-6 Ls-1 that ran 13.70's-then we changed to nittos and ran 13.40's- then we installed a vigilante 3200 stall coverter and it ran 12.61 @107 with 3.23's and bone stock exhaust.we had a K&N and a direct flo lid but that's it.You have to really get in the motor and change some stuff for a 440 challenger to run 12.60's. So I would say If he's got a stock 440 you may be pretty well matched,and if not,you could be in trouble.But either way,do yourself a favor and at least put in a 3200 stall if not a 3500 stall.It doesn't change everyday driveability,the lockup feature still works and you will be saying to the LS-1 guys with the M6- Hey where did you guys go? The converter is good for 7-10ths in the qtr mile.My T/A ran 7.99 in the 1/8th with a best 60 ft of 1.71 on the nittos.

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