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    The big block camaros I owned in the past were both hardtop models, but only weighed just over 3,400 lbs. each. I don't think a vert would add more than 100-150 lbs. over that.
    He is probably right on part with you as far as weight goes.
    Which cylinder head is he running on it? Oval port, Square port, aftermarket?
    You say it's stroked? Is it no longer a 396? How big is it now?

    That father son rivalry is fun. My father and I have been going back and forth for years with his 69 GTO and my 72 454 chevelle. Let us know how it turns out. Larry.

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    Any idea what I would run in the quarter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firebirdjones View Post
    The big block camaros I owned in the past were both hardtop models, but only weighed just over 3,400 lbs. each. I don't think a vert would add more than 100-150 lbs. over that.
    He is probably right on part with you as far as weight goes.
    Which cylinder head is he running on it? Oval port, Square port, aftermarket?
    You say it's stroked? Is it no longer a 396? How big is it now?

    That father son rivalry is fun. My father and I have been going back and forth for years with his 69 GTO and my 72 454 chevelle. Let us know how it turns out. Larry.
    i still think that with heavier leaf spring/traction bars, subframe connectors, etc., including fuel, him and everything is back in/on the car it will be all of the 3800 lbs...

    i will have to get back to you in regards to which heads he's going with. that's actually the hold up right now along with pushrods...

    i believe that he has stroked the engine either .040" or .060" thousandths over so between 408-427 c.i. if my math is right...

    dont worry i will be keeping everyone up to date...

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    Quote Originally Posted by fast enough Z28 View Post
    Any idea what I would run in the quarter?
    I use this chart to give a start as to where an 1/8th mile time would put u in the 1/4 http://www.centralfloridastreetcars....conversion.htm
    so u should be in the high 12s by this chart, and usually its pretty close

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firebirdjones View Post
    The big block camaros I owned in the past were both hardtop models, but only weighed just over 3,400 lbs. each. I don't think a vert would add more than 100-150 lbs. over that.
    He is probably right on part with you as far as weight goes.
    Which cylinder head is he running on it? Oval port, Square port, aftermarket?
    You say it's stroked? Is it no longer a 396? How big is it now?

    That father son rivalry is fun. My father and I have been going back and forth for years with his 69 GTO and my 72 454 chevelle. Let us know how it turns out. Larry.
    My 67 BB loaded boat weighs out at almost 3600 with all fluids and me out of the car. At least that's what a truck scale said. All those options weigh a lot.

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    3600 is not bad if it's loaded with options. Thats about right. Options like A/C and power windows added alot back then, these things were much bigger and more bulky. I only questioned it because 4,000 lbs. is pushing it for a 1st gen, even a big block convertable. It would take a 300 lbs. person sitting in the car to come close to that. He didn't mention if it had A/C or any other power accessories, although a real SS should already have the power front disc brakes and a 12 bolt rearend etc...
    Mine were both SS 396 cars, and both hardtops, and were just over 3,400 lbs. without me in it.
    My 72 SS 454 chevelle which is twice the car of a first gen camaro, has A/C and other goodies, and it comes in exactly at 3,800 lbs. with about 2 gallons of gas. Once full of gas and me sitting in it, (race trim) it's 4,108 lbs. I just don't see a 1st gen coming close to that,,,,even a vert.

    If it were me, since you guys are heading to the track I would throw both cars on the scale just for giggles. Doesn't cost anything and it would really help tell the tale about how a car is running and the kind of power it's making.
    It's really difficult to compare all these timeslips people post on here without knowing details like how much the car weighs (and I mean exactly, not estimates) and also the weather conditions (Density Altitude).
    People like to compare these timeslips with similar cars to get an idea of what their own car might run but,,,,,,,
    Without this kind of info all these timeslips of stock cars and modified cars really don't do me any good. It's like comparing apples to oranges.
    Larry.

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    Larry,

    he does have factory A/C...

    no power windows or top...

    putting it on scales is a good idea. i will run that by him. plus he's about 200 lbs. i dont weigh that much, but i am 5" taller than he is...lol

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    Thats cool. It's just good info to know and has my interest. When are you two heading out to do this? Should be alot of fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firebirdjones View Post
    Thats cool. It's just good info to know and has my interest. When are you two heading out to do this? Should be alot of fun.
    gonna be sometime during the week of the 4th of July holiday. that all depends on if the old man will have it up and running by then too...

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    Larry,

    this is what i got from my dad. my math was alittle off and so was my guess in weight. Looks like i might be in for a major butthurting...

    440 Cubic Inches, Heads are Iron Oval Ports, ported and polished (they flow 300+CFM intake/exhaust/cylinder), stainless steel valves w/full roller valve-train (cam,lifters,rockers). Weight about 3200 lbs. Completed w/Dominator Carb/Hooker Comp. Headers, MSD Ignition, etc. about 550 RWHP...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Too Fast View Post
    Yeah, but we can kill your dad with our gas mileage! And we can go around a corner. I did have a '67 400 4 spd Firebird for 11 years until I sold it in 2000 for my '98. The best I did in that car was a 13.27 @105.7 with headers, Torker ll, 750 dbl pmpr Holley, 3.42 rear, street tires, etc. I got 9 city, 10 highway MPG! And the 4 wheel (dumb) drum brakes were good for one stop at the drag strip, don't try them again!
    Oh common, I love my old stuff. It just has a mistique and charactor all it's own that a new car just doesn't catch.
    The old stuff can get great mileage too if setup right. I have a couple of them here that compare very well to my 02 SS in mileage, and right now are beating the pants off of it at the track too. But I am working on that though

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    Quote Originally Posted by SSwt00SS View Post
    Larry,

    this is what i got from my dad. my math was alittle off and so was my guess in weight. Looks like i might be in for a major butthurting...

    440 Cubic Inches, Heads are Iron Oval Ports, ported and polished (they flow 300+CFM intake/exhaust/cylinder), stainless steel valves w/full roller valve-train (cam,lifters,rockers). Weight about 3200 lbs. Completed w/Dominator Carb/Hooker Comp. Headers, MSD Ignition, etc. about 550 RWHP...
    Sounds like it may run pretty decent. I can tell you both of my 69 camaros I had were 396/375 hp models with 4 speeds. Motor itself was stock, with a cam change, headers, 4.56 gears, some tuning and sticky tires got me very low 12's at 112 mph.
    They can be plenty quick without too much effort. Although the LS1 is nothing to sneeze at, this sounds like it should be alot of fun. I love the father/son stuff.

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