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What year LS1 is known to be the "slowest"??

This is a discussion on What year LS1 is known to be the "slowest"?? within the Camaro / SS forums, part of the Vehicle Specific category; Originally Posted by 9t8z28 Yes! These cars are really safe! I know first hand just how strong they are. I ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9t8z28 View Post
    Yes! These cars are really safe! I know first hand just how strong they are. I had a combined speed of 90 m.p.h. head on collision with mine. I would have walked away with minor injuries if it wasn't for the truck also sideswipping me.
    Daamn, that's assuring. I take it you came out hopefully okay even with the sideswipe? It looks that with the Ratings for the F-Body's, they scored pretty poorly in side tests, but really well in front tests. I personally am not a big fan of T-Tops and am assuming a hard top provides extra structure. I'm sure subframe connectors can only help too?

    Camarojunky, I assume and hope your Sister came out okay after her incident?

    What sucks is, it seems the 98's have some plus points with the better injectores, more aggressive Cam (why would GM weaken the Cam the next year?), but at the same time, it seems the 99's have some stronger points. I guess a good rule of thumb is, get as new a model as I could.

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    Quote Originally Posted by camarojunky74 View Post
    when you mod a 98. you run into the problems with the valve covers and coil packs needing to be updated, costing more money, as well as the pcm is different, and the t56 is the same as the lt1 cars

    you are probably right. although most problems i run into when synchro's fail early or grind is due to the clutch not disengaging, and in 01 gm re did the master cylinder to perform better especially under heat.


    you guys saw the crash my sister got into in my 99
    woahhhh nelly ...why do the valve covers need to updated??? also who cares that the pcm is different..hp tuners tunes it just as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyLs1 View Post
    98's have the shitty pcm too.
    99+ are all the same with minimal differences. They all run in the 12.90 to 13.50 range. Once you start modding they all even up.
    please tell me how the 98s pcm is shitty

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    Quote Originally Posted by shady milkman View Post
    woahhhh nelly ...why do the valve covers need to updated??? also who cares that the pcm is different..hp tuners tunes it just as well.
    98 head/valve covers are premier bolt and not center bolt like 99 and up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shady milkman View Post
    woahhhh nelly ...why do the valve covers need to updated??? also who cares that the pcm is different..hp tuners tunes it just as well.
    If you ever go to swap heads, you will have to get the center bolt valve covers instead of the perimeter bolt you currently have. Nothing wrong with the perimeter bolt ones, they are just outdated so to speak.
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    The LS1 was originally designed with center bolt valve covers in mind, but in 98 they hadn't been perfected and totally given the ok for public use yet, just weren't totally tested and developed yet.

    That is why we have the perimeter covers on 98's - Like everybody said probably no big difference, just need new covers when you put on different heads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by K--A View Post
    .....I personally am not a big fan of T-Tops and am assuming a hard top provides extra structure....

    Not a difference worth mentioning... all 93+ cars were built to be ttop...I cut the ttops into my car, in the "hardtop" cars, there is a small beam, the same as the one in the ttop, spot welded in its place, and a fiberglass skin glued on. the ttop actually seems stronger when in place due to more metal in the latch and pin mech...

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    Quote Originally Posted by shady milkman View Post
    please tell me how the 98s pcm is shitty
    They are not shitty. You can tune 98 pcm's for engine mods. You just need to find a good tuner. They have smaller peramiters which makes it a little more difficult to get the tune right. Heads and Cam tunes are not so bad, it's when you get to forced induction that can be a problem. Depending on the amount of boost, you may want to upgrade to a 99+ pcm, or add a 2-3 bar map sensor.

    My car and pcm is a 98 but the engine is a 99. I had trouble getting my car tuned since the MAF was maxing out (high voltage) which has smaller peramiters. This was solved by a MAP/MAF tune which is basically a speed density tune. The car utilizes the MAF sensor under all conditions but full throttle. Under full throttle, the car relies off of the MAP sensor(speed density).

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    Quote Originally Posted by K--A View Post
    Daamn, that's assuring. I take it you came out hopefully okay even with the sideswipe? It looks that with the Ratings for the F-Body's, they scored pretty poorly in side tests, but really well in front tests. I personally am not a big fan of T-Tops and am assuming a hard top provides extra structure. I'm sure subframe connectors can only help too?

    Camarojunky, I assume and hope your Sister came out okay after her incident?

    What sucks is, it seems the 98's have some plus points with the better injectores, more aggressive Cam (why would GM weaken the Cam the next year?), but at the same time, it seems the 99's have some stronger points. I guess a good rule of thumb is, get as new a model as I could.
    No, I got hurt pretty bad. It was the side swipe that hurt. the car took the front end collision very well. The T-top section held up very well also. They to absorbe alot of the impact.

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    Wow, well you were able to walk away from the accident with your life intact, so that's definitely a good thing

    Thanks for all the info and feedback again guys, this is all very helpful.

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    i have raced about every some what stock camaros z28 and ss and ta ws6 with the ls1in my town my 99z has not been beat yet

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    Quote Originally Posted by mingo99z View Post
    i have raced about every some what stock camaros z28 and ss and ta ws6 with the ls1in my town my 99z has not been beat yet
    get your car to a track and see what you got.

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    too bad he has to deal with altitude in wy. the closest track that i know of is in co, where mr. louis runs. well its the closest to cheyenne at least. i dont know of any in wy and i doubt there are any there. but at least he doesnt have to deal with 100+ degrees like sin city.

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    oh yeah mingo ill give you a good run in the 00 z when i take my grandpa for a cruise up there. i'm dying to see how it handles on a 830+ mile road trip lol.

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