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    what about rear gear????

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    241 heads and 853 ... whats the difference?????

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    ive heard the power from the 01s up was all in the pcm, so to speak.

    the 98s had a slightly bigger cam and the ls1 manifold

    01's and up had a slightly smaller cam and the ls6 manifold.

    an intake wont make too much of a difference when the car is stock, but when the exhaust is opened up and a cam is thrown into the mix, the gains will come.

    the same logic applies to cold air intakes. sure they dont dyno too high of a number, but youre car is stationary. at the track when you are barreling forward, the faster you go the more air is forced up the cai.

    apply that to intake manifolds....

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    Quote Originally Posted by spookyz28 View Post
    I dont know about all of that but even with those thing's the 02 should have came on top. 02 SS rated at 345hp:, 00 SS rated at 310hp. I DONT KNOW ANYMORE.............
    I believe the 2000 SS Camaros are rated at 320 hp.

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    Just goes to show that more HP doesnt mean anything. Thats why I get sick and tired of all these threads asking "LS1 versus such and such". The only way to find out is to run them. No one has a crystal ball or knows the outcome prior to the event. Underdogs win, favorites lose in sports all the time. Its why the game is ACTUALLY played on the field and not on paper.
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    now whats up with the different number heads

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    Quote Originally Posted by greatwhiteZ28 View Post
    now whats up with the different number heads
    98 LS1's had a different head than the 99 and up LS1's. I can't recall the cast # on the '98 heads. The '99 and 2000 LS1's have 853 cast # heads. The '01 and '02 LS1's have 241 cast # heads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spookyz28 View Post
    I dont see how you can be a better driver when both car's are stock automatics
    Reaction time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Y2KPewterSS View Post
    98 LS1's had a different head than the 99 and up LS1's. I can't recall the cast # on the '98 heads. The '99 and 2000 LS1's have 853 cast # heads. The '01 and '02 LS1's have 241 cast # heads.
    soo is there any HP difference from the two??
    whats the difference between the two?

    thanks

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    dude quit bitching about the ls6. if you dont like it, dont buy it. my 02 came with it stock but if it didn't im not sure i would spend hundreds of $ on it either.

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    you talking to me kid

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    Quote Originally Posted by greatwhiteZ28 View Post
    soo is there any HP difference from the two??
    whats the difference between the two?

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    The main difference is the '98 heads were perimeter bolt style and the '99 and up were center bolt. The flow #s are probably a little bit better on the 241 heads versus the 853 heads, but we are talking like 5-10 HP difference, not a significant amount.

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    thank you

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    the rear gear could have had alot of difference in the race. Even though they are both stock A4's one could have 2.73's and the other could have 3.23's. That would make a difference of out the race. Let them both race form say a 60mph roll and you would find out which one has the higher gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by INIT2WIN View Post
    the rear gear could have had alot of difference in the race. Even though they are both stock A4's one could have 2.73's and the other could have 3.23's. That would make a difference of out the race. Let them both race form say a 60mph roll and you would find out which one has the higher gear.

    All SS's A4's came with 3:23s. Both cars were an SS.

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    do it in stages.
    stage 1 both get same cat back then race
    stage 2 both get same set LTs then race
    stage 3 both get same cam then race

    you will notice then what the difference is just in the intake manifold and heads when the 02 stars pulling.

    my .02

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    Oh and most definately do some test on the track, that will tell you if someone reacts better, grabs better, etc.

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    omg ok kiddies time for a lil lesson. all f-bods from 98-02 were actually pulling around 350 to the fly. ram air is a joke without the fra mod. the ls6 has around .1 more liters in plenum volume and around .05 more litters in runner volume...bigger intake = more air = more hp. plain and simple. gm's build tolerances for the ls1s where like .01 +- so with that big of a tolerance you see a huge range of hp and tq numbers. if they where .0001 like Ferrari then 01-02s would constantly run train on 98-00. also driver talent matters. it doesnt matter if both where a4s..a driver still has to drive it and keep her as straight as possible. amount of fuel in the tank also matters. the 01-02 cams exhaust lifts are the only difference. the 01-02 has around .02 less exhaust lift due to emissons standards..so as some have said..alot of the increase of "hp and tq" are done computer wise and intake. the 98-00 have better downlow power ..and 01-02s have better mid to high range power
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    as P said all SS and WS6's came with 3.23s in their ass. and as other have said 01-02s are more mod friendly as they already have better intake. so thats where you will really see the ls6 intake take over. and also as P said 99+ moved to center bolt ! eh these threads are always so dumb..but it felt good to drop some ls1 info...i knew i would need to remember this shit

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    Quote Originally Posted by shady milkman View Post
    omg ok kiddies time for a lil lesson. all f-bods from 98-02 were actually pulling around 350 to the wheels. ram air is a joke without the fra mod. the ls6 has around .1 more liters in plenum volume and around .05 more litters in runner volume...bigger intake = more air = more hp. plain and simple. gm's build tolerances for the ls1s where like .01 +- so with that big of a tolerance you see a huge range of hp and tq numbers. if they where .0001 like Ferrari then 01-02s would constantly run train on 98-00. also driver talent matters. it doesnt matter if both where a4s..a driver still has to drive it and keep her as straight as possible. amount of fuel in the tank also matters. the 01-02 cams exhaust lifts are the only difference. the 01-02 has around .02 less exhaust lift due to emissons standards..so as some have said..alot of the increase of "hp and tq" are done computer wise and intake. the 98-00 have better downlow power ..and 01-02s have better mid to high range power
    dont you mean 350 to the crank? 300 to the wheels.........

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