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    Question What Is the big Difference? I don't see it! PLEASE RESPOND!!!

    O.K. Last night I was out with some friend's. 2 car's were racing. 2000 Camaro SS and a 2002 Camaro SS. Both car's were completly stock A4's. Out of ten Races the 2000 Camaro SS took 6 out of 4 race's by less than half a car length. The other's were almost to close to call. With an LS6 intake and 241 head's, The 2002 Camaro SS should have won each race hand's down. I think all the hype over the LS6 intake and 241 heads on the 01's and 02's are all hype. There is no real performance improvement!! WHAT DO YOU THINK?

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    after looking at pro codes...alot of different options could have played a factor....and the condition of the actual cars could have played into it? im not sure

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    I know that both car's were completely stock. Both driver's are close friend's of mine. Their car's came with all the factory options. The 02 was actually rated a 345hp. like I said I don't think the LS6 Intake is all it crack's up to be. Same said for the 241 stock head's over the 853's

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    Quote Originally Posted by LS1SSZ28 View Post
    after looking at pro codes...alot of different options could have played a factor....and the condition of the actual cars could have played into it? im not sure
    both car's are well taken care of. Each car has not gone over 30,000 mile's

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    just because its an 02 model dont make it THAT much better. There are factory freaks out there, and maybe the guy in the 00 was a better driver. Are u sure they were stock??

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    Quote Originally Posted by rajiv1998 View Post
    just because its an 02 model dont make it THAT much better. There are factory freaks out there, and maybe the guy in the 00 was a better driver. Are u sure they were stock??
    I can bet my life on it. Like I said, They are close personel friend's of mine. Both car's are a4's

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    It seem's like there is allway's an excuse for the LS6 INTAKE and the factory 241 head's over the LS1 INTAKE and 853 head's no matter what it is. Like I said I don't really think there is a difference

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    i was thinking it sounds like a traction problem mabey?...to win 6 out of 10, the 4 times the 02 lost could have not gotten traction?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LS1SSZ28 View Post
    i was thinking it sounds like a traction problem mabey?...to win 6 out of 10, the 4 times the 02 lost could have not gotten traction?
    Both car's were on BFG Drag radial's

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    I can vouch for the LS6 intake. Didn't pick up but a tenth but I did gain 1.5 MPH on average. There were a couple of runs faster but I always go by average and on average I ganed .1 and 1.5 mph. What did the options look like on both cars and weight of both drivers? My stock A4 Z28 stripper whooped my friends 01 fully loaded SS several times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slims00ls1z28 View Post
    I can vouch for the LS6 intake. Didn't pick up but a tenth but I did gain 1.5 MPH on average. There were a couple of runs faster but I always go by average and on average I ganed .1 and 1.5 mph. What did the options look like on both cars and weight of both drivers? My stock A4 Z28 stripper whooped my friends 01 fully loaded SS several times.
    my friend driving the 00 Camaro SS weighs about 20lbs less than my friend driving the 02 Camaro SS. Don't think that is much of a difference? I just dont know why everyone is on the LS6'S INTAKES NUT SACK giveup

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    Trust me, an ls6 intake is gonna free up some power, thats one of the if not THE major reason why 01/02 ls1's dyno a bit higher than any other year

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    One could have had a fresh oil change and newer plugs....

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    Quote Originally Posted by spookyz28 View Post
    my friend driving the 00 Camaro SS weighs about 20lbs less than my friend driving the 02 Camaro SS. Don't think that is much of a difference? I just dont know why everyone is on the LS6'S INTAKES NUT SACK giveup
    Naa 20 lbs is only equivalent to 2 HP. What about options? Leather (big difference) etc. My car is close to 300 lbs lighter than a fully loaded WS6 which is the equivalent to 30 hp, and that is with 3/4 tank full washer fluid, spare and jack still in my car with 0 lightening mods.

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    if there both stock, then ones a better driver than the other

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    Quote Originally Posted by rajiv1998 View Post
    if there both stock, then ones a better driver than the other
    I dont see how you can be a better driver when both car's are stock automatics

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    Quote Originally Posted by slims00ls1z28 View Post
    Naa 20 lbs is only equivalent to 2 HP. What about options? Leather (big difference) etc. My car is close to 300 lbs lighter than a fully loaded WS6 which is the equivalent to 30 hp, and that is with 3/4 tank full washer fluid, spare and jack still in my car with 0 lightening mods.
    I dont know about all of that but even with those thing's the 02 should have came on top. 02 SS rated at 345hp:, 00 SS rated at 310hp. I DONT KNOW ANYMORE.............

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    Did they race from a dig or from a roll? If they raced from a dig you will never know unless you’re at the track and you see some ET's because one could be leavening before the other and not notice. If it’s from a roll, well rolls are for bakeries and they never turn out fair anyway. Most of the time you’re going off someone’s horn and that person is anticipating the honks.

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    I always thought the 98-00 had a little bit better cam and a worse intake and the 01-02 had a worse cam and a better intake. And unless both cars have been dynoed and put out the same power, i would assume one would be a little faster than the other, some engines just have a little more power than others, tolerences are closer or something like that. Just my .02
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    Quote Originally Posted by 00ssSLP View Post
    Did they race from a dig or from a roll? If they raced from a dig you will never know unless youíre at the track and you see some ET's because one could be leavening before the other and not notice. If itís from a roll, well rolls are for bakeries and they never turn out fair anyway. Most of the time youíre going off someoneís horn and that person is anticipating the honks.
    All races were from a dig

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