weight difference...

**camarospade** · 02-21-2010, 07:18 AM

my buddy just bought an 04 gto. bone stock except for a K&N intake. but nothing else besides that. He let me drive it the other day cause he's still getting used to driving a stick shift and wanted to see "what it could do". so i drove it and it just didn't feel as strong as my 2000 ss when i first got it. it seemed to take awhile to climb the rpms. and just didn't break loose that much. I know the gtos are a little heavier but does it really make that much of a difference?

**Smittro** · 02-21-2010, 07:30 AM

Originally Posted by camarospade

my buddy just bought an 04 gto. bone stock except for a K&N intake. but nothing else besides that. He let me drive it the other day cause he's still getting used to driving a stick shift and wanted to see "what it could do". so i drove it and it just didn't feel as strong as my 2000 ss when i first got it. it seemed to take awhile to climb the rpms. and just didn't break loose that much. I know the gtos are a little heavier but does it really make that much of a difference?

I think the goats are a lot heavier but I could be wrong tho. But they are a heavy weight..

**10spokess** · 02-21-2010, 10:59 AM

They are extremely heavy compared to 4th gens

**camarospade** · 02-21-2010, 11:36 AM

i thought it was like a couple hundred pounds weight difference... are they like the new camaros?

**35th-ANV-SS** · 02-21-2010, 11:55 AM

The new Camaro's are only a few hundred pounds heavier than the 4th gens I believe.

**karpetcm** · 02-21-2010, 01:03 PM

From what i recall reading somewhere the 04 GTO is about 3725 LBS and the 2010 Camaro SS is about 3850 LBS, give or take a little. The 05-06 GT0's are definitly alot better in pick up and very fast.

**camarospade** · 02-21-2010, 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by karpetcm

From what i recall reading somewhere the 04 GTO is about 3725 LBS and the 2010 Camaro SS is about 3850 LBS, give or take a little. The 05-06 GT0's are definitly alot better in pick up and very fast.

how are the 05-06 gtos compared to a stock ls1 ss

**10spokess** · 02-21-2010, 06:01 PM

Well when mine was almost stock with just a lid and a smoothbellow I outran a cammed gto dont know the specs on it but its the blue one that goes around pasadena maryland all the time

**tpilews** · 02-21-2010, 08:01 PM

Originally Posted by karpetcm

From what i recall reading somewhere the 04 GTO is about 3725 LBS and the 2010 Camaro SS is about 3850 LBS, give or take a little. The 05-06 GT0's are definitly alot better in pick up and very fast.

GTO - 3725 lbs
2010 Camaro SS - 3860 lbs
2002 Camaro - 3432 lbs
2001 Camaro - 3439 lbs
98-00 Camaro - 3445 lbs

**karpetcm** · 02-21-2010, 11:02 PM

I remember seeing a good vid a while ago of a white WS6 going up against a 05-06 GTO both stock and i think both manual and the GTO barely edged it out and in a couple of the races seemed like the WS6 would keep up as the speeds got higher. Either way your going to get several different stories and experiences when it comes down to it. In my opinion the 05-06 GTO stock vs a 01-02 Camaro the GTO should pull slightly givin that there both manual trannies and both drivers are equal. In the real world that is very rare to make happen so thats the main reason why you'll get different opinions and experiences.

**SPDYGON** · 02-28-2010, 05:19 PM

the # that tpilews has are dry weight.

**Maro SS** · 02-28-2010, 05:46 PM

i wondered the same thing when i raced my buddy's 06 his was bone stock and my 01 ss has a cat back and a lid.. he beat me by a fendor

he said it was the weight difference.. i was shocked because of the rated hp difference..

**Kingc8r** · 03-02-2010, 12:07 AM

Originally Posted by karpetcm

I remember seeing a good vid a while ago of a white WS6 going up against a 05-06 GTO both stock and i think both manual and the GTO barely edged it out and in a couple of the races seemed like the WS6 would keep up as the speeds got higher. Either way your going to get several different stories and experiences when it comes down to it. In my opinion the 05-06 GTO stock vs a 01-02 Camaro the GTO should pull slightly givin that there both manual trannies and both drivers are equal. In the real world that is very rare to make happen so thats the main reason why you'll get different opinions and experiences.

+1 Most of the GTOs that I have seen run have goons behind the steering wheel...except a select few.

Then again, we also have quite a few FBody drivers that can't drive either...

**Z28_Driver** · 03-03-2010, 08:18 AM

Originally Posted by Kingc8r

+1 Most of the GTOs that I have seen run have goons behind the steering wheel...except a select few.

Then again, we also have quite a few FBody drivers that can't drive either...

Always the big problem with racing. Way to many cars need a driver mod.

**mack42104** · 03-03-2010, 08:30 AM

I ran a stock GTO 6.0 liter and bet him by a car in my 2002 Z28. I was surpized but when we really got moving you could see him inching back on me.... Alll the way threw the 1/4 I had him pretty good. From that point i knew his car put out more power but mine was lighter... I would like to run one again since i did a cam upgrade and lightend my car up about 200 pounds lol

**Firebirdjones** · 03-03-2010, 11:54 AM

Our 4th gens

1997 Z28 6 speed convertable...3520 lbs.
2000 SS 6 speed T-tops......3,550 lbs.
2002 SS Auto Convertable....3,620 lbs.

Only weight reduction done on the 2000 and 2002 are long tube headers and off road Y-pipes. Everything else is factory issue. So technically speaking, you could add 15-20 lbs. to both of these cars.

I've seen other 4th gens on certified scales that also came in the 35xx range. The lighter ones I've seen were gutted, back seats removed, no spare, smaller wheels, etc....or it was simply a no option 4th gen.
Since 95% of them are loaded with doodads, 3500+ is a safe bet.

With that said, I wonder just how much heavier an 04-06 goat really is?? I wouldn't think it could be more than a 150-200 lbs.