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This is a discussion on Third Gens within the Camaro / SS forums, part of the Vehicle Specific category; may pick up a third gen camaro this summer...the point is i know that they run about 200hp stock, give ...

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    may pick up a third gen camaro this summer...the point is i know that they run about 200hp stock, give or take a few. My question is what should i add to get more hp and tq out of these cars. i know emissions cotrols took a toll on the output for these cars...suggestions and or expected power output? ty

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    tryin to keep it cheap...theres a local kid sellin a 92 with the 305 in it, automatic...it needs a couple grand in body work so i dunno, kind of would like to keep the 305, maybe get some bored out heads and do full bolt ons

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1998 T/A View Post
    tryin to keep it cheap...theres a local kid sellin a 92 with the 305 in it, automatic...it needs a couple grand in body work so i dunno, kind of would like to keep the 305, maybe get some bored out heads and do full bolt ons
    imho 305 is'nt worth your time. Get a 4-bolt 350 and go from there. Have to make it breath to get to a chevys power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smittro View Post
    imho 305 is'nt worth your time. Get a 4-bolt 350 and go from there. Have to make it breath to get to a chevys power.
    dont even need a 4 bolt. a 2 bolt is easily capable of 400hp. some people even go as far to say that 4 bolts are weaker due to the extra holes in the main webbing.


    i ran 600+ hp on a 2 bolt 400, stock crank and rods but studded. take it form me, no matter what you build, stud the bottom end! a couple hundred bucks could save you thousands!

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    I prolly should'nt have said the 305 is'nt worth your time. My bad.... Because I get heckled about liking v6's.. Build what you like. There's always forced induction. Or even spray it..

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    Quote Originally Posted by big hammer View Post
    dont even need a 4 bolt. a 2 bolt is easily capable of 400hp. some people even go as far to say that 4 bolts are weaker due to the extra holes in the main webbing.


    i ran 600+ hp on a 2 bolt 400, stock crank and rods but studded. take it form me, no matter what you build, stud the bottom end! a couple hundred bucks could save you thousands!
    I'd put a 4bolt 350 sbc against a 2 bolt 350 any day..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smittro View Post
    I prolly should'nt have said the 305 is'nt worth your time. My bad.... Because I get heckled about liking v6's.. Build what you like. There's always forced induction. Or even spray it..
    you're right though--- if you're building, a 305 isnt worth your time. but if it's in there and a strong engine, a simple cam, carb intake and header will make it twice the engine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smittro View Post
    I'd put a 4bolt 350 sbc against a 2 bolt 350 any day..
    i've built both, and wouldn't build a 350 again. too small.


    i've never had a crank\rod failure with either anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big hammer View Post
    you're right though--- if you're building, a 305 isnt worth your time. but if it's in there and a strong engine, a simple cam, carb intake and header will make it twice the engine.
    agree

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    ya its just the way its going right now with work i dont think im going be able to afford another LS1 this summer. i had a third gen v6 in high school and i like those body styles so just trying to find the fastest way to get behind another muscle car. i'll keep my eyes open for a 350 but who knows

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    The small bore of the 305 tends to shroud valves. And the 305 swirl port heads are basically junk. The LO3 engines (TBI type - looks kinda like a carb) put out only 170hp.

    If you can find one put a worked over 400 in it. That with the TPI setup and some gears will give you an easy 12 second ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 67CamaroRSSS View Post
    The small bore of the 305 tends to shroud valves. And the 305 swirl port heads are basically junk. The LO3 engines (TBI type - looks kinda like a carb) put out only 170hp.

    If you can find one put a worked over 400 in it. That with the TPI setup and some gears will give you an easy 12 second ride.
    yeah swirl port heads aren not for hp--- they're for low end torque. i like the way they act in my 89 chev, but not for a car.

    i love 400 sb's though! good power for cheap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 67CamaroRSSS View Post
    The small bore of the 305 tends to shroud valves. And the 305 swirl port heads are basically junk. The LO3 engines (TBI type - looks kinda like a carb) put out only 170hp.

    If you can find one put a worked over 400 in it. That with the TPI setup and some gears will give you an easy 12 second ride.
    Which is about 10hp more than a single cam 3.4L v6. and 30-45hp less than the tdc 3.4L w body which will eat a 305.. 30 less than the 3800II.. 305 is about twice as heavy as the 207's. But to each thier own. I would'nt muk with a 305 but then again not many folks here like to muk with v6's either.. Even with headers and a cai, only going to see stock 3800II power levels.. Just my .02..
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