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This is a discussion on SS or Z28 within the Camaro / SS forums, part of the Vehicle Specific category; i'm seriously asking . how much did they rate the firehawks and the ss's from the factory?...

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    i'm seriously asking . how much did they rate the firehawks and the ss's from the factory?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdub2145 View Post
    i'm seriously asking . how much did they rate the firehawks and the ss's from the factory?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SiggyZ View Post
    Uh, I'm not so sure. I ran a buddy of mine who had an '02 Trans Am WS6 (we had the exact same modifications done to our cars). We were nose to nose the entire time. He was alone in his car and my ex was in my car with me.
    Yeah having owned a WS6 and a Camaro Z28 now, I know they are equals and it is mostly to do with the driver. I just hate everytime I see someone with no knowledge of cars tell me the WS6 is faster from the factory. Or if a Camaro beats a WS6 at the track most of the crowd is in awe.

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    Street racing has a different outcome nearly every time so that's not a way to compare.

    For real comparison sake in straight line performance. You really have to take the cars to the track and have one driver drive them all to take any variables out.

    All of this is completely out of the question anymore anyway, these cars are 10 years old or more now with wear and tear, and there is hardly a 4th gen out there now that hasn't had a wrench on it.

    So all this talk of "well my buddy had this and I beat him" is really pointless.

    You guys crack me up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zinergy View Post
    Yes but you cant say PERFORMANCE differences because in any situation the z28 vs a ss is a drivers race. Whether is be in a straight line or around a track. Yes the SS has some suspension tweaks but its so minimal its nothing a driver couldnt overcome against a slightly less skilled driver in the SS.
    I think you are missing the point. We aren't talking about drivers here, has nothing to do with it. We are talking about the cars themselves, in which there are differences. That was the whole point of the discussion, not who can drive a Z28 better than an SS.

    Drivers shmivers, I've beat cars with 150 more HP than me,,,,doesn't mean my car is better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firebirdjones View Post
    I think you are missing the point. We aren't talking about drivers here, has nothing to do with it. We are talking about the cars themselves, in which there are differences. That was the whole point of the discussion, not who can drive a Z28 better than an SS.

    Drivers shmivers, I've beat cars with 150 more HP than me,,,,doesn't mean my car is better.
    Yes I did miss that point lol. Its true with exactly equal driver the SS should win. But its damn hard to find two driver with the same exact skill set. My only point was the suspension upgrades on the SS give it a very slim performance advantage as far as handling goes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zinergy View Post
    Yes I did miss that point lol. Its true with exactly equal driver the SS should win. But its damn hard to find two driver with the same exact skill set. My only point was the suspension upgrades on the SS give it a very slim performance advantage as far as handling goes.
    You are right. Not trying to give you a hard time, it's all good.

    I agree in the handling department, since I had both a Z and an SS at the same time. I could tell a different feel on the road from one to the other, the SS gave me more confidence for sure. Honestly though, I've never been much of a corner type of guy so suspension upgrades for that are never in the plans for me.

    I know guys like to say they are replacing suspension pieces on their Z anyway, and that's great. If you plan to modify then a Z is probably the right choice. I can understand that completely which is why I asked the original poster what he really wanted out of a car and what the plans were. I don't see spending the extra dough for an SS if you plan to change everything underneath of it anyway, I completely agree with that logic.

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    mine only dynoed at 285 stock then after the cam ,full exhasut and a tune it hit 376 at the wheels

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    Differences are


    "SLP ENGINEERING OPTIONS FOR 2002 CAMARO SS

    WHAT CHEVROLET OPTIONS ARE REQUIRED TO ORDER SLP OPTIONS ON THE 2002 CAMARO SS?


    Camaro Z28 Coupe, 1FP87; or Camaro Z28 Convertible, 1FP67 model must be ordered.

    Chevrolet Regular Production Option (RPO) WU8 must be added to the order.

    Camaro SS is only available in Arctic White, 10U; Light Pewter Metallic, 11U; Silver Metallic, 13U; Navy Blue Metallic, 28U; Onyx Black, 41U; Sunset Orange Metallic, 71U; and Bright Rally Red, 81U.

    Camaro SS cannot be ordered with the following Chevrolet options:
    PW7, Polished Aluminum Wheels or any optional tire. However,
    Camaro SS is available with optional SLP 17"x 9" chrome-plated,
    five-spoke, ZR1 style, aluminum wheels or 17"x 9" chrome-plated
    version of the standard SS ten-spoke style wheels.

    STANDARD CAMARO SS CONTENT (Requires GM Option Code WU8)


    325 horsepower V8 engine (approximately 09-01-01, the new-for-2002 optional SLP Performance Package will boost powertrain output by 20 hp, for 345 total hp*, 335 hp is also available as an SLP option)

    Composite hood with functional air scoop

    SS specific rear deck spoiler

    Forced-air induction system

    Dual outlet exhaust system

    Special High Performance Ride & Handling Suspension

    17"x 9" lightweight, aluminum painted wheels

    275/40/ZR17 Goodyear Eagle F1 tires

    Zexel-Torsen Differential

    Power Steering Cooler

    Camaro SS exterior graphics

    Based on Camaro Z28 Coupe, 1FP87; and Camaro Z28 Convertible, 1FP67 models only

    * For customers who receive their 2002 Camaro SS prior to the 09/01/01 introduction of the new components and are interested in the Performance Package, send your Name, Address and Camaro SS GM order number, as well as your Email address to kroeder@slpeng.com. We will contact you regarding the availability and pricing for ordering the new System.

    OPTIONAL SLP CAMARO SS CONTENT


    All-New Twenty Horsepower Performance Package
    (available approximately 09/01/01) $1359. 00 /C$1929.00
    w/center mount exhaust
    $999. 00 /C$1399.00
    w/dual-dual exhaust
    GM's potent LS1 V8 engine in combination with SLP's new Performance Package, which features High Flow Induction System and either of our two proven, optional exhaust systems, produces 345 horsepower. Available on all SS models, including anniversary edition.


    Camaro SS Front Grille $249.00 /C$349.00
    Front Grille insert with SS center logo. (n/a on 35th Anniversary models)


    17" x 9" Chrome-Plated, Ten-Spoke Style, Aluminum Wheels $999.00 /C$1399.00
    SLP offers a chrome version of the Camaro SS wheel. The wheel center-cap design features your choice of the SS or Chevrolet Bowite logo. (n/a on 35th Anniversary models)


    BFGoodrich g-Force 275/40ZR 17" Tires $899.00 /C$1259.00
    Under optimum conditions, g-Force tires can improve 1/4 mile
    acceleration times.


    Center Mounted Performance Exhaust System (335 Horsepower) $1059.00 /C$1499.00
    SLP offers a center mounted 335 horsepower exhaust system to give your Camaro SS a distinctive look. This system also includes flush body mount rear fascia extensions and distinctive center dual tips with polished edge. (available on anniversary models)


    Custom Rear Deck Mat with embroidered Camaro SS Logo $99.00 /C$139.00
    This all-new Custom Rear Deck Mat enhances the appearance of the shelf area behind the rear seat in your Camaro SS. The aggressive nubs hold the mat firmly in place. (n/a on 35th Anniversary models)


    Commemorative Portfolio $59.00 /C$89.00
    This Commemorative Portfolio is designed to hold your GM owners manual and the supplemental SLP owner's manual. Includes an SLP engraved pen, notepad, tire tread depth gauge, a customized "Certificate of Authenticity". (The customized package will be shipped by SLP to the customer after the customer completes and returns an information form included in the portfolio.)


    Bilstein Ultra Performance Suspension System $1099.00 /C$1529.00
    Offers handling that, according to Car and Driver magazine, "…works smarter, not harder…We're hard pressed to think a car that rides better on 17-inch tires…" Motor Trend magazine added this assessment, "Handling? How about .91g on the skidpad?…" (Available on all models; n/a with 1LE Suspension Package)


    1LE Suspension Package $1899.00 /C$2699.00
    This performance suspension system, offered exclusively by SLP, includes double adjustable Koni Shocks. Recommended for competition driving. (n/a on convertible or with Bilstein Suspension Package)


    Auburn High Torque, Performance Differential w/AAM cast aluminum
    cooling cover $899.00 /C$1259.00
    Combination of leading edge Auburn Gear and American Axle
    Manufacturing technology enhances traction and helps reduce
    differential operating temperatures under certain driving conditions.
    System detects variance in the gripping force of each rear tire and
    redistributes the engine load as road conditions change, thereby
    enhancing vehicle handling.


    17" x 9" Chrome-Plated, ZR1 Style, Five-Spoke Aluminum Wheels $999.00 /C$1399.00
    SLP offers a chrome-plated wheel for 2001 that includes a 3-year/36,000 mile limited warranty on the chrome finish. Wheel center-cap design features SS or Chevrolet Bowite logo. (n/a on 35th Anniversary models)


    Performance Exhaust System with Dual-Dual Outlets (335 Horsepower) $699.00 /C$989.00
    Stainless steel system features dual outlets with two exhaust tips on each side, which provides the authoritative "exhaust note" and aggressive profile enthusiasts want. A freer-flowing muffler and associated hardware, combined with proprietary SLP technology, help increase engine output to 335 horsepower. (available on anniversary models)


    Premium Front Floor Mats with embroidered Camaro SS logo $99.00 /C$139.00
    Heavy-duty, custom fitted carpeting with aggressive nubs to hold mats firmly in place. (35th anniversary models receive 35th embroidered Mats)


    Custom Car Cover with silk-screened Camaro SS graphics $159.00 /C$229.00
    Premium grade, breathable, water-resistant fabric. Provides protection from the elements for today's hottest collectible car. Includes: cable, lock and tote bag with silk-screened Camaro SS graphics. (35th anniversary models receive 35th silk-screened cover)


    (Two) Camaro SS Key Fobs and (One) Dash Plaque $49.00 /C$69.00
    For that final touch of distinction, SLP offers a high quality set of key fobs and an attractive Camaro SS plaque. (Dash plaques not mounted, but placed in accessories box.)



    PRODUCTION SPECIFICS
    SLP produces the Camaro SS at its Montreal assembly facility, which is 20 minutes away from
    GM's Ste. Therese F-Car assembly plant. The process is simple: GM ships vehicles scheduled
    for alteration to SLP for that work. Following alteration, Camaro SS's are returned to GM's Ste.
    Therese assembly plant and subsequently shipped by GM carriers to Chevrolet dealerships.

    WHAT ABOUT FINANCING AND WARRANTY COVERAGE?
    Retail financing and leasing are available through GMAC. SLP's 3-year/36,000-mile limited warranty covers content provided by SLP. The balance of the vehicle, which is not affected by specific SLP content, is covered by General Motors's limited warranty. See GM limited warranty for details.

    For more information on ordering SLP options on the 2002 Camaro SS, contact SLP's Customer and Dealer Assistance Center at 1-248-288-3066, 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m., Eastern Standard Time, Monday through Friday, or via fax at 1-248-288-3176.

    Remember, in order for SLP options to be added to your Camaro SS, the dealer must submit a Sales Agreement for the options prior to your vehicle being assigned a vehicle identification number (VIN) by General Motors, no exceptions. SLP's website address is www.slpeng.com.]"

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    If I remember right there would be a slight difference in the 98 and I think it carried into 99 on the A4 Z28 an TA they had that retarded 2.73 in them while WS6 and SS cars automatically came with the 3.23's. That being said.you could get one.like mine that had the 3.23 performance package or.whatever they called it I lost the window sticker and it was over 10 yrs ago. I also got lucky and got one.of the cars that came without the stupid tcs so one less thing to shut off. So for that time a 3.23 geared SS would be faster than a 2.73 geared Z28.
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    In 2002 about 25% also had the ls6 block must you not forget

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    The ls 6 block didnt add any more horsepower?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jakez28 View Post
    In 2002 about 25% also had the ls6 block must you not forget
    I think Preston commented on someonre's question as to what the advantadges were in having this block. The biggest one had to do with ventilation... and perhaps structural strength

    In any event, there was almost no performance gain at all... but of course the bragging rights to the idiots

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