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This is a discussion on SS vs 3000-GT VR4 within the Camaro / SS forums, part of the Vehicle Specific category; 230 (AWD) WHP is nothing to scoff at. What would the F-Body WHP be rated at if it was AWD? ...

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    230 (AWD) WHP is nothing to scoff at.

    What would the F-Body WHP be rated at if it was AWD?

    Listen, personally I would never buy a VR4, and I dont really like them at all...
    but...

    They can be made faster, and I've seen very fast ones at the drag strip.
    AWD cars are quick out of the hole... an obvious advantage on the street.

    Here are some dyno charts:


    http://www.daveblack.net/asp/DynoResults.asp

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich L View Post
    230 (AWD) WHP is nothing to scoff at.

    What would the F-Body WHP be rated at if it was AWD?
    230WHP is pathetic for a vehicle thats rated at 320HP at the crank. Thats a huge loss, and I don't consider a 3800lb vehicle with 230WHP "fast" at all. More like "dog", if anything.

    Listen, personally I would never buy a VR4, and I dont really like them at all...
    but...

    They can be made faster, and I've seen very fast ones at the drag strip.
    AWD cars are quick out of the hole... an obvious advantage on the street.
    Bro, I know they can be "made fast". Any car can with enough time and money. But is it worth it to make a pig-heavy Mitsubitchi fast, only to have it fall apart on you?? Hell no, and those cars are complete garbage, so thats what ends up happening. Like I said - my friend had one, tried to do mods, and it was all worthless in the end because you can't make a shitty car anything other than a shitty car.

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    My biggest complaint about the VR4...

    there is no room to fit a wrench anyplace in the engine compartment!
    I wouldnt want to work on one.

    Anyway, IMHO if any car can be "tuned" into a low 12 second car...
    is cool in my book.

    I just wouldnt do it with that car.

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    Vr-4's suck for modding. I owned one. Sold it. Bought a camaro :-D

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    Wesman, what color is your VR-4?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SiggyZ View Post
    Wesman, what color is your VR-4?
    I don't own one, and never will, they are trash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SiggyZ View Post
    Wesman, what color is your VR-4?
    wesman own a import. thats a joke. he thinks anything made in japan is rice and jap crap. even the supra tt...

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    I bet my '90 Honda Accord with 208k miles can whoop up on his Trans Am.

    Quote Originally Posted by shady milkman View Post
    wesman own a import. thats a joke. he thinks anything made in japan is rice and jap crap. even the supra tt...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SiggyZ View Post
    I bet my '90 Honda Accord with 208k miles can whoop up on his Trans Am.
    yeah in mpg

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    No, I'd blow his doors off too.

    Quote Originally Posted by FATTONY View Post
    yeah in mpg

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    lmao uh oh here we go....are u just messing with wesman or do u have a VERY VERY modded accord?

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    You'll just have to remain in limbo on that one.

    Quote Originally Posted by tonyjnjz View Post
    lmao uh oh here we go....are u just messing with wesman or do u have a VERY VERY modded accord?

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    I have a 01 SS with SLP intake and Exhaust + Ls6 maf thats it and my buddys 95 Stealth RT/TT pulls from my car like its parked on the Fwy and No chance from a dig ALL WHEEL DRIVE, then again he is one of the top VR4/Stealth tunners on the west coast. "If VR4 is stock and SS is healthy, pretty much even from 60 to 120 where VR4's falls off" Drivers Race (my buddy Eric Roehm) Stock for stock 91 -93 VR4 vs. SS you would have more advantage. Dont get me wrong i love my SS and so does Eric! But your biggest variance is in the driver. PM me with year what he has done to it and Eric will tell you what you chances are. Lets put it this way there are a few 9 sec 140mph VR4's out by you East Coast. Bottom line is potentially, SS could be faster for less money, its all about who sets them up. "If it looks like sh!^ then go from a dig and it will probably break" (Eric )

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    Quote Originally Posted by SiggyZ View Post
    I bet my '90 Honda Accord with 208k miles can whoop up on his Trans Am.
    I bet we'd all be better off if you just stopped posting.

    Thanks, now shutup. Stoopid Newbs.

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    Keep it civil guys

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    I'm not a stoopid newb sir. I was on this forum a long time before you were. I just had to re-register since it was a long time before I was active. Let's just hope I don't run into your T/A on the street while I'm in my Honda. I'll just have to blow your doors off.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wesman View Post
    I bet we'd all be better off if you just stopped posting.

    Thanks, now shutup. Stoopid Newbs.

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    Don't worry, I will. I'm just having a little fun with him.


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    Quote Originally Posted by fast droptop View Post
    Keep it civil guys
    wesman being civil...oh man

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    He does seem to get a tiddy bit worked up over things, eh?

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    wesman being civil...oh man

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    come on now..u have me curious about this all mighty accord...at least send me a pm with its mods and specs/dyno

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