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This is a discussion on ss starting to age within the Camaro / SS forums, part of the Vehicle Specific category; I can disagree with you all I want, I've driven one and I don't think they're any quicker in the ...

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    I can disagree with you all I want, I've driven one and I don't think they're any quicker in the 1/4 mile. Higher top speed maybe, but the acceleration isn't really all that different.

    Quote Originally Posted by slimss View Post
    Why would you disagree???? Its true. Even though the 5th gen is heavier it still makes more power stock for stock than a ls 1. overall the 5th gen camaros are quicker in the quarter mile than the 4th gen ls 1

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    I'll agree (or should I say concede, since I haven't driven one) that the 5th gens are a bit quicker stock for stock than the 4th gens. Although probably not by very much at all since my Z28 did 13.5 at 108 mph bone stock with 2.73 gears. Those stock gears went by-by long ago thankfully. My biggest problem with the 5th gens is the computer controlling the throttle. I want to drive the car myself. I don't need a computer in between my foot and the engine deciding if it wants to give me the amount of throttle I am telling it to. I do like the appearance of the 5th gens. I just really like good, instant throttle response.

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    I'm not going to totally disagree with that. They are newer cars with a more powerful engine and thusly, should be faster, but I just don't think it's enough to really be a huge difference. And then with a standard tranny, you toss the driver equation into the mix. As far as the computer controlled throttle? I'm sure you can do deletes to that just as I have to my car as has many others.

    Quote Originally Posted by ZForce1 View Post
    I'll agree (or should I say concede, since I haven't driven one) that the 5th gens are a bit quicker stock for stock than the 4th gens. Although probably not by very much at all since my Z28 did 13.5 at 108 mph bone stock with 2.73 gears. Those stock gears went by-by long ago thankfully. My biggest problem with the 5th gens is the computer controlling the throttle. I want to drive the car myself. I don't need a computer in between my foot and the engine deciding if it wants to give me the amount of throttle I am telling it to. I do like the appearance of the 5th gens. I just really like good, instant throttle response.

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    The difference in feel from a 4th gen to a 5th gen is pretty substantial. 2 completely different throttle systems, and the 5th gen is computer controlled for a smoother, and more subtle acceleration. The 5th gens are the faster vehicle stock vs. stock. But the 4th gens, "feel" faster because you have more driver input and control on the happy pedal.

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    That's a good point you've made.

    Quote Originally Posted by konigandy6 View Post
    The difference in feel from a 4th gen to a 5th gen is pretty substantial. 2 completely different throttle systems, and the 5th gen is computer controlled for a smoother, and more subtle acceleration. The 5th gens are the faster vehicle stock vs. stock. But the 4th gens, "feel" faster because you have more driver input and control on the happy pedal.

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    Not to mention, computer controlled throttle for fuel economy as well

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    Again, something else you can do deletes to.

    Quote Originally Posted by konigandy6 View Post
    Not to mention, computer controlled throttle for fuel economy as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by SiggyZ View Post
    Again, something else you can do deletes to.
    Agreed!

    The 1LE Camaro is a different animal all together. It feels more rugged and aggressive, like our 4th gens. But they're not cheap.

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    If I were to buy a new Camaro, it would be the 1LE hands down.





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    Quote Originally Posted by SiggyZ View Post
    If I were to buy a new Camaro, it would be the 1LE hands down.
    Unless you had ZL1 money... but if you do, why not go after a couple year old Z06 or Grandsport.

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    That would be assuming I don't have ZL1 money.

    Quote Originally Posted by konigandy6 View Post
    Unless you had ZL1 money... but if you do, why not go after a couple year old Z06 or Grandsport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by konigandy6 View Post
    Unless you had ZL1 money... but if you do, why not go after a couple year old Z06 or Grandsport.
    I would agree with this. Insurance shouldn't be that much of a difference.

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    Drive-by-wire throttle isn't as bad as everyone makes it out to be.

    When I did the 6.0 swap in my blazer it was also drive-by-wire, which worked out slick for the swap because it gave me cruise control (just add a switch) all ran by the computer with no servo's or other crap.

    Once I tuned the engine, throttle response was so crisp and touchy that you had to be carefull how you hit the gas from a stop, because it would snap every passengers neck if you didn't drive it with an egg shell under the pedal

    So it's really not a reason to throw away a 5th gen.

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    If I were buying a new 5th Gen I would buy the....wait, no I wouldn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SiggyZ View Post
    I can disagree with you all I want, I've driven one and I don't think they're any quicker in the 1/4 mile. Higher top speed maybe, but the acceleration isn't really all that different.
    So just by driving a 5th gen you felt it was slower than a stock 4th gen ss camaro??? You can think that all you want But as said above the 5th gen camaro ss are quicker and faster. The proof is there.

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    I didn't say it felt slower. I said it didn't feel any faster than mine and mine has been lightly modded. It's not bone stock.

    Quote Originally Posted by slimss View Post
    So just by driving a 5th gen you felt it was slower than a stock 4th gen ss camaro??? You can think that all you want But as said above the 5th gen camaro ss are quicker and faster. The proof is there.

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    I think the fastest time recorded in a 5th Gen SS M6 (bone stock) was 12.588.

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    See, that's the thing. Haven't there been plenty of bone stock LS1s record similar times?

    Quote Originally Posted by 35th-ANV-SS View Post
    I think the fastest time recorded in a 5th Gen SS M6 (bone stock) was 12.588.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SiggyZ View Post
    See, that's the thing. Haven't there been plenty of bone stock LS1s record similar times?
    I believe so, yes. Or at least very close. Yes, the 5th Gen "on average" is faster, but it really is a racer's race in my opinion. You'll beat the 5th Gen off the line. Top end is where it will shine more.
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    I'm pretty sure someone I knew had a '02 Camaro SS A4 that ran mid 12's bone stock. Everyone called it a factory freak that was one of the '02s that had an LS6 block.

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