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This is a discussion on Shifting Speeds within the Camaro / SS forums, part of the Vehicle Specific category; Originally Posted by mst219 ight like i said on the other thread about 15 minutes ago.. im goin 2 bed.. ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mst219 View Post
    ight like i said on the other thread about 15 minutes ago.. im goin 2 bed.. peace all.. and thanks for the help
    lol peace

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Luos View Post
    Wow. 40MPH in 1st gear with an M6 and 3.42's is nothing. It is about 4800 RPM's.
    I mean...my 4.11'd car will go 47MPH in first.

    Stock 3.42's with an M6...
    6200 RPM's in 1st gear = 52MPH
    6200 RPM's in 2nd gear = 78MPH
    6200 RPM's in 3rd gear = 106MPH
    6200 RPM's in 4th gear = 138MPH

    You have to be able to judge when you can safely downshift though.
    Thank you sir....that is very helpful! Next time I see a ricer coming up to me doing 80, at least now I know I have plenty of room in 3rd to run it up to 105+.

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    oh shit! sorry my bad i jsut realized it actually is bigger haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by mst219 View Post
    ever sense i got it... lol

    and ur RS is verrrry nice
    along with ur SS of course
    lucky bastards got 2 f-bods..
    Thanks, that rs was just a base v6. I sold that one to get the SS. I miss that car. It was fun.

    In the meantime I'll be practicing those shift points

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    Quote Originally Posted by mst219 View Post
    ...example... say im goin 55.. should i downshift into 1st? or would that produce to many RPM's for 1st?

    Thanks,
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    Matt, yes, downshifting from 55 (2nd gear) into first would nuke your engine, it would be off the chart of 7000rpm+.

    some cars are different. i have an 6spd and 3.42 rear end. I can run 1st gear to 50+mph @ 6000rpm, 2nd gear to 75+mph @ 6000rpm, and 3rd gear to 100+mph also around 6000rpm. but my car is modded and tuned...
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    here's a quick tip:

    when you're bout to downshift, put the clutch in, punch the gas and get the rpms up to 4.5-5 k or so, then u can dump the clutch into the new gear selected. This saves clutch ware if you "rev Match"

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    Quote Originally Posted by ss~zoso~ss View Post
    here's a quick tip:

    when you're bout to downshift, put the clutch in, punch the gas and get the rpms up to 4.5-5 k or so, then u can dump the clutch into the new gear selected. This saves clutch ware if you "rev Match"

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    NO, that's how you get your clutch to stick to the floor board and it wont come up till it feels like it. You've got to use the best judgement when rev matching to get it where it will be after the shift has been made, this will produce the least jerking and wear on your car. Dumping the clutch is not really good for it at all.

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    At an autoX you will be mostly in 2nd gear. The camaro is at an advantage because you're not hitting the rev limiter at 60 like most of the other cars. Only at really low speed corners will you get to first gear and you won't be shifting into first until you have slowed the car down.

    Read up on heel and toe shifting and then practice it before you hit the track. After you get comfortable at the autox do a track day. These cars are fun at the track.

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    alittle off topic but i know a guy that has an 02 ss with patriot heads and a hot came (dont know duration) and he and his buddy (01 mustang gt vortech supercharged) were gonna run them on a local highway (370). it would be from i believe an 80mph punch. he put it into second, locked the rear end up, a few seconds later two beautiful cars were totalled. it really is all about feeling, and alittle common sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by secondgearscratch View Post
    alittle off topic but i know a guy that has an 02 ss with patriot heads and a hot came (dont know duration) and he and his buddy (01 mustang gt vortech supercharged) were gonna run them on a local highway (370). it would be from i believe an 80mph punch. he put it into second, locked the rear end up, a few seconds later two beautiful cars were totalled. it really is all about feeling, and alittle common sense.
    Any pics?! This sounds interesting!

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    Let me just say that at around 75mph in 3rd, I 'downshifted' to 2nd (unintentionally). Back tires broke loose, and got sideways. Tach bounced off the limiter, but only for a second or two before I cought it. Wasn't to fun.

    As far as speeds, I personally shift by sound. I am far from an autoXer, and lean much towards a drag racer, but shifting is all in teh sound/feel. If the engine sounds and feels like it needs to be shifted, then do it. That's not to say that you should downshift to 1st if your at 5000 in 2nd. It takes some getting used to, but you'll hear what the motor wants to do.


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    So you're basically saying don't be afraid of the rev limiter...???

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    the rev limiter isnt supposed to scare you, its meant to save you. it wont hurt the car at all. unless you just let it bounce off the limiter for a while. but yeah dont be afraid of it. Personaly when i race i hit the limiter once in every gear before i shift, and if i dont hit the limiter i will be right on 6100 RPM.

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    why is everyone concerned about shifting at a certain mph and not rpm. shouldn't you be shifting at or near the peak of your power curve depending on cam/xmsn ratios. a specific speed shouldn't have anything to do with this right?
    Last edited by socmninja; 02-19-2007 at 01:47 PM.

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    I think people just wanted to know how fast they COULD go in certain gears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7camaro7 View Post
    I think people just wanted to know how fast they COULD go in certain gears.
    exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by socmninja View Post
    why is everyone concerned about shifting at a certain mph and not rpm. shouldn't you be shifting at or near the peak of your power curve depending on cam/ xmsn rations. a specific speed shouldn't have anything to do with this right?
    I don't think it was concerning when to shift but more when it is safe to downshift.

    minesfasterx2, your rev limiter is at 6200 on a stock motor unless it has been bumped up a little via tune. The stock tach isn't the most accurate piece. Could easily be off 100-200 RPM's.
    Also, figure out where you are before banging the limiter. You will get faster if you stay off the limiter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7camaro7 View Post
    NO, that's how you get your clutch to stick to the floor board and it wont come up till it feels like it. You've got to use the best judgement when rev matching to get it where it will be after the shift has been made, this will produce the least jerking and wear on your car. Dumping the clutch is not really good for it at all.
    i shouldnt have said dump it, but if you get it in that ball park that is the best range for somebody that doesnt know the exact range it will jump into when they are downshifting.

    i dont downshift much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ss~zoso~ss View Post
    i shouldnt have said dump it, but if you get it in that ball park that is the best range for somebody that doesnt know the exact range it will jump into when they are downshifting.

    i dont downshift much.
    I do all the time now, it really does save gas and brakes! I'm getting better gas mileage and I really like the sounds when I do it. Downshifting all the way down to FIRST takes a little practice since 1st is the toughest gear power wise.

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    puts a lot o wear on your clutch tho, i still just use the brakes

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