thanks guys for the great info, would i still be able to get in my car and drive 100 miles with the ms4 and not really worry about it cause thats the main thing. I don't really care about the ride quality or if it would be a pita as i am used to driving lifted trucks and with 44" tires i kinda got used to driving pissed off and patient. But i do drive 70-100 miles every other weekend and do not want that to be comprimised