opinions on performance

**scottydont901** · 08-12-2008, 05:23 PM

just bout a 99 z28 and i'm looking into spending alot of money with texas speed. How much horsepower and quarter mile times will acheive with these mods : slp intake, ls6 manifold, tb, mass air, texas speed headers, 3" y no cats, slp loudmouth, ms4 cam, underdrive pulleys, 4000 stall, 100 shot nitrous, slp diablo programmer, tubualr lca, panhard, 3.73 gears and slicks. I know its a long list but i just sold my dodge diesel and have a little bit of money to have some fun with this camaro. Also i'm thiniking about a 9" moser and maybe upgrading the transmission. Will the ls1 stock bottom end handle these mods our should i consider a stroker kit ? also how hard is the cam swap.

**35thz28camaro** · 08-12-2008, 05:48 PM

you will be in the 10's. do not get a diablo programmer you will need a custom tune! the stock bottom end will be fine with these mods. the ms4 is a great cam! i love mine! i am still on a stock trans but i am getting a 9in rear.

**scottydont901** · 08-12-2008, 05:59 PM

thanks man, i've been reading your posts and i'm really impressed with your times without heads or intake manifold. How long does the ms4 cam take to install also what else will i need with it ? valve springs etc.

**35thz28camaro** · 08-12-2008, 06:22 PM

you need to get the cam kit from texas-speed, it comes with cam, springs, pushrods ext. you should also get a oil pump, and ls2 timing chain. it takes about 8 hours or so depending on how good you are. my car is a 2002 so it came with the ls6 intake stock, you will need to get an ls6 intake

**Mr. Luos** · 08-12-2008, 06:25 PM

Pick a different catback. Unless you LOVE rasp....

Also, skip the MAF. Leave the stocker...more so running on the juice.
No handhelds are worth the $$. Get a real tune.

Actually....stay away from SLP all together.

Better parts for cheaper out there.

Car going to see the street?? 4000 stall and the MS4 won't be too streetable.
Power will be there for 10's though!

**35thz28camaro** · 08-12-2008, 06:30 PM

^+1 other than the streetable part. my car drives great!

**Mr. Luos** · 08-12-2008, 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by 35thz28camaro

^+1 other than the streetable part. my car drives great!

I should rephrase it. I think a 'streetable' car is one that could be daily driven in the summer.

Everyone has a different opinion on streetable...and I have driven a car with similiar stall and an MS3. While I would drive it on the street, I wouldn't want to daily drive it.

**scottydont901** · 08-12-2008, 06:36 PM

thanks guys for the info

**scottydont901** · 08-12-2008, 06:37 PM

should i go with a 3500 stall then ? i live in florida and it gets pretty hot here. I'm pretty set on the ms4 cam though, the only other cam i have looked at is the mti x1

**Mr. Luos** · 08-12-2008, 06:38 PM

Does the car get driven daily??

**scottydont901** · 08-12-2008, 06:40 PM

yep, but i only work 10 minutes away from my house but i do drive quite a bit on weekends

**Mr. Luos** · 08-12-2008, 06:43 PM

Only car?

If so...I would back off on the cam a bit, and use the nitrous for when you need it.

**scottydont901** · 08-12-2008, 06:45 PM

not the only car my fiance has a corolla, what cam is more streetable, would the x1 be more street able or should i go down to a ms3 ? i just love the sound of the ms4.

**Mr. Luos** · 08-12-2008, 06:47 PM

How much drag racing?
That MS3/MS4 will want steep gears as well. They are peaky cams.

I don't have a drag car, so I like the more 'average' sized cams. They still lope great though.

**scottydont901** · 08-12-2008, 06:50 PM

probably every thursdau night or every other thursday down at bradenton motorsports. Gears i would like to go with 4.10's but will sacrifice on the 3.73's what do you think i will need if i go with the ms4 and either 3500/4000 stall

**Mr. Luos** · 08-12-2008, 07:03 PM

To take full advantage of a cam that size....
4000 stall and 4.11's.

Which is why I prefer cams that aren't as peaky but make power across the board for a daily driver type car.

**Y2KPewterSS** · 08-12-2008, 07:38 PM

Your first mod should be a beater car. I would not have my only car be an LS1+4k stall+3:73s/4:10s+MS3/MS4 cam+supporting mods. Even though you only work 10 mins away and your fiance has another car, I would be looking for another vehicle if you want to mod your Camaro that heavily. My .02

**kris6273** · 08-15-2008, 06:27 AM

i would also look more into that 9" bc with all those mods and slicks the stock7.5" is not going to hold up for very long once it hooks at the track lol

**camarojunky74** · 08-15-2008, 06:17 PM

torquer 2 cam, underdrive pulley, edelbrock stepped long tube headers, 1 3/4 to 1 7/8's, custom tune, ls2 timing chain, ls6 oil pump nice exhaust, a fast 92 intake with 92mm throttle body and a 150 wet shot of n20. you will make 460ish hp on motor and 580ish hp on n20. you will spend about 2500,also some stock 241 heads that i have and will sell to you for cheap, i cant remember if your car is a 99 or older

**rickws6pape** · 08-15-2008, 10:55 PM

i have a 99 ws6... mti intake..ls6 intake manifold..slp pulleys..hooker headers n exhaust 373 gears..ls6 stage 3 heads..texas spead 228r cam..12 bolt moser rear end. stage 3 clutch.. custom tune..i beat a car last night that ran a 12.2 by 3 cars so.. ill probbly run a 11.9 or 12 flat..so idk if thats the numbers u want but i love it.drive it 4 or 5 times a weak. good lope cam.. sounds nice..runs like a charm.(knock on wood).... my buddy has a ms3 in his 02 specail edition trans am... sounds awesome. he has kooks headers.and flowmaster exhaust..i like the way his sounds more then mine.. but id do the 228r cam.. cuz he says driven that ms3 everyday. gets pissy