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    New V6 camaro can run

    http://www.dragtimes.com/Chevrolet-C...lip-21158.html
    just look at this link i never thought id be envious of a 2010 V6 camaro

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    Bottled 660! The 2011 Camaro 3.6l DI DOHC 60*v6 N/A has more base hp than a base ls1.. @ ~315 vs ~305..
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    They are just so big i cant get over that fact lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by 10spokess View Post
    They are just so big i cant get over that fact lol
    Too fricken heavy.. That engine should have been a 4th gen option or @ least a retuned lq1 instead of the all iron 3800 @ only ~200 crank..imho
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    The 2010 has 312hp also. GM didnt release the camaro sae numbers until mustang announced their numbers. The 304 hp was the llt motors rating in the cts.

    My '10 M6 LLT did 273 rwhp 250 ft lbs on a dynojet with a k&n drop in and stock SS cans. A6 LLT did 246hp and 245 ft lbs if i remember correctly. A 100% stock a6 l99 '10 camaro did 324hp 348 ft lbs about an hour before me. All runs were same day/same dyno.

    Hardest part is tuning is only avail from Vince/trifecta. No hptuners/efilive/diablosport etc.. Also seems to have some nasty torque management hidden in the computer. Down the road these coukd be killer bang for the buck if they get a few kinks worked out.

    Thats ROD1 drag slip. That run got him on the home page of camaro5.com. Im pretty sure the build was fairly cheap for the results. Nos, skinnies, drag slicks on z06 wheels, used ss exhaust, cai.. Pretty impressive results! V6 is 3700# though vs 3440 for an 02!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smittro View Post
    Too fricken heavy.. That engine should have been a 4th gen option or @ least a retuned lq1 instead of the all iron 3800 @ only ~200 crank..imho
    The 3.6l dohc v6 has the potential to bring an aftermarket to the older LQ1.. Fingers crossed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camar0 View Post
    The 2010 has 312hp also. GM didnt release the camaro sae numbers until mustang announced their numbers. The 304 hp was the llt motors rating in the cts.

    My '10 M6 LLT did 273 rwhp 250 ft lbs on a dynojet with a k&n drop in and stock SS cans. A6 LLT did 246hp and 245 ft lbs if i remember correctly. A 100% stock a6 l99 '10 camaro did 324hp 348 ft lbs about an hour before me. All runs were same day/same dyno.

    Hardest part is tuning is only avail from Vince/trifecta. No hptuners/efilive/diablosport etc.. Also seems to have some nasty torque management hidden in the computer. Down the road these coukd be killer bang for the buck if they get a few kinks worked out.
    304hp was also the number thrown out by the prototype testers.. My guess is just as the LQ1 proto was rated @ far more than actual production, that the 3.6l was prolly also producing more than the actual production engine numbers. But 273 rwhp puts you ~ 304 crank or so with drivetrain loss percentage...

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    "The 304 horsepower in the 2010 Camaro was actually a conservative rating on our end," Tom Sutter, GM V6 chief engineer, said in today's press release. "But we knew already that this award-winning engine produced at least the amount of power we stated, but now we've gone the extra step in certifying the engine for this application and have verified an additional 8 horsepower."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camar0 View Post
    "The 304 horsepower in the 2010 Camaro was actually a conservative rating on our end," Tom Sutter, GM V6 chief engineer, said in today's press release. "But we knew already that this award-winning engine produced at least the amount of power we stated, but now we've gone the extra step in certifying the engine for this application and have verified an additional 8 horsepower."
    What are your plans for your 10 ?

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    Sweeeeeeet!!!!

    LLT is getting replaced with the LFX @ 325-330hp!!!!!!!!!


    The new engine option description is: "LFX 3.6L SIDI, DOHC, VVT, E85 MAX, Alum GM"

    The LFX should displace 3.6L, like the current V6 found in the Camaro. And it's packed to the brim with advanced technologies like Spark-Ignition Direct-Injection, Dual Overhead Cams, Variable Valve Timing, and E85 capability!!

    Those are the hard details...but a little research raises some other interesting points. It is likely that the LFX is going to build on the innovations of the 3.0L LF1 V6 found in vehicles like the Cadillac CTS, SRX, and Chevy Equinox. That engine features a composite intake manifold, integrated exhaust manifolds and optimized NVH/airflow treatments.

    When the LLT was transplanted from the CTS into the Camaro, it picked up 8hp, or 2.6% because of different intake/exhaust efficiencies. The LF1 produces 270hp in 3.0L form in the CTS. If we scale up the displacement of the 3.0L engine to 3.6L, and use the same 2.6% power increase as the LLT, estimates have the new LFX producing anywhere from 325-330 hp when used in our favorite pony car!!

    Here's some interesting documents on the LF1 (current CTS/SRX/Equinox engine) for your reading pleasure:
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    None, I sold it back. Had transmission problems. Theres a thread on c5 where 65% (100+ members) are repoting the ay6 binds or grinds and 5 have gone lemon so far. I would have to shift to third before i could get first at a stop sign.

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    I'm thinking a 2011 camaro can be my daily now that i know there is actually potential

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camar0 View Post
    None, I sold it back. Had transmission problems. Theres a thread on c5 where 65% (100+ members) are repoting the ay6 binds or grinds and 5 have gone lemon so far. I would have to shift to third before i could get first at a stop sign.
    Nice. Sounds like my father in laws Ford Ranger.. I guess GM strikes again on first year bugs.. Most first year cars have some issues tho.. Guess we'll see how it goes...

    Figures just when my horse comes to town..

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    Wait for a '12 if you can. It will use the e39 ecm instead of the bosch unit. Then you can use hptuners which means hello boost!!!! They are expecting a 2.25 release date on this. The bosch unit isnt even on their backburner. You can run boost now but its a mail order tune instead of a software your speed shop uses. Plus youll get 18hp for free out the gate!!

    Honestly the car is amazing except for the trans issue i had. Its not a Gm issue as much as its the transmission maker - aisen's fault imo.

    Paint on the 2010 and 11 are extremely thin and chip super easy. Wait for a late build 11 or 12 model unless you like huffing the touch up paint! Not trying to act like i know it all.. Just want to share exp and help others get the most for their buck!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camar0 View Post
    Wait for a '12 if you can. It will use the e39 ecm instead of the bosch unit. Then you can use hptuners which means hello boost!!!! They are expecting a 2.25 release date on this. The bosch unit isnt even on their backburner. You can run boost now but its a mail order tune instead of a software your speed shop uses. Plus youll get 18hp for free out the gate!!

    Honestly the car is amazing except for the trans issue i had. Its not a Gm issue as much as its the transmission maker - aisen's fault imo.

    Paint on the 2010 and 11 are extremely thin and chip super easy. Wait for a late build 11 or 12 model unless you like huffing the touch up paint! Not trying to act like i know it all.. Just want to share exp and help others get the most for their buck!!
    Not @ all.. It's nice to have another v6 guy around..

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    14.35 was my best 1/4 if your interested . Thats with a soft launch to avoid wheelspin. DR would have hit 13s i think.

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    So are you going to get a new camaro again?

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    No plans currently..

    If i do ill save enough to pay cash but only if they get rid of the AY6 or give the a6 v6 a posi and use the e39.. Then id get anpther '12 v6. Otherwise get an 11 or 10 v8.. Or just build a 60s muscle car. Long story short ... Nothing soon :-/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camar0 View Post
    14.35 was my best 1/4 if your interested . Thats with a soft launch to avoid wheelspin. DR would have hit 13s i think.
    I think so too.. Guys with completely stripped down bolt on 3800's are hitting high-mid 13's..

    Totally gutted a 5th gen v6 would be a menace on the streets and the track imho..

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    LLT in a 3rd gen would be amazing!

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