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This is a discussion on Ls1 vs New Mustang within the Camaro / SS forums, part of the Vehicle Specific category; Originally Posted by BlueByU-SS wow are you guys serious? like a new gt mustang right? please those things are dogs.. ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueByU-SS View Post
    wow are you guys serious? like a new gt mustang right? please those things are dogs.. like mid 14s is the best ive ever seen... i think 14.1 was the best you should be 13.5's
    I don't know what you've seen...but the 05+ Mustang GT's sure as hell aren't mid 14 second cars. Best I've heard of is 13.5, with a good driver and good conditions. Most stock ones will run anywhere from 13.6-13.9, depending on transmission, driver skill, track conditions, ect.

    Put it this way:

    M5 05 GT > Auto LS1
    M5 05 GT < M6 LS1

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    The 05's are definately faster than the pre 05's and it will give the LS1 more of a challenge and even win given the right conditions. The low end on those mustangs is very good and they will get you on the take off, but don't forget about our top end If it's a short race, the mustang will take it, if it's a longer race, the LS1 will take it!

    Oh yeah, I took my first 05 GT last week on the way to work. I took him from a roll

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wesman View Post
    I don't know what you've seen...but the 05+ Mustang GT's sure as hell aren't mid 14 second cars. Best I've heard of is 13.5, with a good driver and good conditions. Most stock ones will run anywhere from 13.6-13.9, depending on transmission, driver skill, track conditions, ect.

    Put it this way:

    M5 05 GT > Auto LS1
    M5 05 GT < M6 LS1
    I couldn't agree more with you wesman.. I race my buddy in my "MARO" 02 and i beat him no problem.. We went to the track last week.. his best time was 13.7... They can run anywhere from a 13.5 to a high 13.9.. for a good driver.. This race is all up to the DRIVER.. you have an ls1.. but its a 99" so you got a ls1 intake not the ls6... It should be a good race..

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    really?? I always read about how most of these members rip those mustangs a new a$$ hole. try a search. I havent raced one but when they first came out everyone here smoked them by about 2 cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 01SOMSS! View Post
    really?? I always read about how most of these members rip those mustangs a new a$$ hole. try a search. I havent raced one but when they first came out everyone here smoked them by about 2 cars.
    Most LS1's are at least lightly modded by now. That has a lot to do with a lot of S197 kills.

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    thanks for all the responses guys but what driver skills do u need if its a4?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chevy350 View Post
    thanks for all the responses guys but what driver skills do u need if its a4?
    launch. with v8 power, u gotta learn how high to rev while holding the breaks, letting the brakes go while pushing the gas even more, but not too much...

    ya know? just gotta know how far to push the pedal

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    Quote Originally Posted by WARP211 View Post
    IThey can run anywhere from a 13.5 to a high 13.9.. for a good driver..
    Low 13's with a good driver.

    Your 2002 has the LS6 intake...but a smaller cam than the 98-00's. Makes the power gained from the LS6 intake very small over the 98-00's.
    In other words...stock for stock...drivers race. With any of the LS1 cars. Some also run better than others.
    Who knows without racing.

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    how high do u usually rev it to?

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    The only person i seen run a GT in the low 13's is SMITTY... and we all know we ain't him.. so good luck trying to get their.. SMITTY RAN 13.3 using a 5000RPM launch.. slip clutch and go... hope the drive train stays together...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chevy350 View Post
    how high do u usually rev it to?
    This depends on several things.

    Does it have a stall?? If so, what speed?
    What tires? New? Old?
    What said tires can take without spinning is where you should rev to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WARP211 View Post
    The only person i seen run a GT in the low 13's is SMITTY... and we all know we ain't him.. so good luck trying to get their.. SMITTY RAN 13.3 using a 5000RPM launch.. slip clutch and go... hope the drive train stays together...
    There is a rookie driver with his 2006 GT that went "13.43 @ 102.38mph with 1.95 60' stock" in Illinois.
    I know for a fact the kid hadn't dragged any car before. I think it was the second time at the track for him with that car.
    He since traded it in for an 03/04 Cobra.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Luos View Post
    This depends on several things.

    Does it have a stall?? If so, what speed?
    What tires? New? Old?
    What said tires can take without spinning is where you should rev to.
    naw this was a dvd that my friend got from his mustang mag.. they did it completey stock when they did the 1/4 mile.. And I think the car was an auto but not to sure if it was.. also the car had about 2000 miles on it so i guess the tires should be new if not in good condition..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Luos View Post
    Low 13's with a good driver.

    Your 2002 has the LS6 intake...but a smaller cam than the 98-00's. Makes the power gained from the LS6 intake very small over the 98-00's.
    In other words...stock for stock...drivers race. With any of the LS1 cars. Some also run better than others.
    Who knows without racing.
    So youre saying the 98-00s have a bigger cam, but wouldnt gain as much power from a LS6 intake swap unless the 98-00s had the smaller 01-02 cam?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKIRA View Post
    So youre saying the 98-00s have a bigger cam, but wouldnt gain as much power from a LS6 intake swap unless the 98-00s had the smaller 01-02 cam?
    I think what he saying is that if you put an LS-6 intake on 98-00 then you would have the advantage.. Cuz of the bigger cam.. get about 10-15 hp out of it..

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKIRA View Post
    So youre saying the 98-00s have a bigger cam, but wouldnt gain as much power from a LS6 intake swap unless the 98-00s had the smaller 01-02 cam?
    No.
    The difference in the cams is VERY small. Very small.

    This isn't by any means every car. Some simply run better than others.
    98-00 with LS1 intake <= 01-02 with LS6 intake
    98-00 with LS6 intake > 01-02 with LS6 intake

    Not really a fair comparison though. Stock against modded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Luos View Post
    No.
    The difference in the cams is VERY small. Very small.

    This isn't by any means every car. Some simply run better than others.
    98-00 with LS1 intake <= 01-02 with LS6 intake
    98-00 with LS6 intake > 01-02 with LS6 intake

    Not really a fair comparison though. Stock against modded.
    Good way to put that into perspective. Thats about how I figured it too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueByU-SS View Post
    wow are you guys serious? like a new gt mustang right? please those things are dogs.. like mid 14s is the best ive ever seen... i think 14.1 was the best you should be 13.5's
    i agree, stock vs stock LS1 got 50hp more at crank and less weight.
    track or street? manual LS1 wins all of them, now manual mustang vs auto LS1 on street can be a driver's race depending on how curvy the road is...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Luos View Post
    Low 13's with a good driver.

    Your 2002 has the LS6 intake...but a smaller cam than the 98-00's. Makes the power gained from the LS6 intake very small over the 98-00's.
    In other words...stock for stock...drivers race. With any of the LS1 cars. Some also run better than others.
    Who knows without racing.
    My converted time when I was stock was 13.4(14.6). My friends was 13.3(14.5).

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    Ok I assume those times are because of elevation.

    My question is, does it feel slower? I mean, has anyone ran a time like that, then drove their car to 0 elevation and felt like the car 'woke up?'
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