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    Have a 2002 ss and I am going to install the LM 11 myself.
    Other than a saws-all, what advice can you give me on this job ?
    Right now my car has the orignal GM system.

    Thanks for any help you have, guys.

    jess .......

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    SLP Loud Mouth II ???
    saw the Y-pipe to I-pipe clamp if its rusted together
    saw the pipe over the axle & pull eveything out
    piece the system together loosely into place & tighten everything down when fitment is good

    also some ATF may help getting the exh hanger bushings on and off

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    I can't help you with the Loudmouth, but don't throw away your original exhaust. Chances are if it is in good shape, someone will want to buy it. Just some advice for ya!

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    Hey 9t8z28, and 1BADDLS1, I appreciate your help and advice.
    I knew someone out there has done this, and It is good to find advice from people in the know. I have worked with a number of systems in the past,

    1971 Chevelle 396 (not org. engine)
    1971 Caprice 402

    but never one of these and I was wondering what I might run into and what to be aware of.

    Thanks,

    jess ......

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    Quote Originally Posted by jess View Post
    Hey 9t8z28, and 1BADDLS1, I appreciate your help and advice.
    I knew someone out there has done this, and It is good to find advice from people in the know. I have worked with a number of systems in the past,

    1971 Chevelle 396 (not org. engine)
    1971 Caprice 402

    but never one of these and I was wondering what I might run into and what to be aware of.

    Thanks,

    jess ......
    What kind of system did you put on the Chevelle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9t8z28 View Post
    I can't help you with the Loudmouth, but don't throw away your original exhaust. Chances are if it is in good shape, someone will want to buy it. Just some advice for ya!
    well then DONT cut it up... you have to drop the rear (lower as much as possible & track bar) ... unless your really crafty & have a lift.... sooo your not getting it out with out cutting it unless it goes to a shop

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1BADDLS1 View Post
    well then DONT cut it up... you have to drop the rear (lower as much as possible & track bar) ... unless your really crafty & have a lift.... sooo your not getting it out with out cutting it unless it goes to a shop
    I didn't tell him to cut it up. But your gonna have to at least make one cut. I do exhaust systems all day long, I know what I'm doin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9t8z28 View Post
    I didn't tell him to cut it up. But your gonna have to at least make one cut. I do exhaust systems all day long, I know what I'm doin.
    i was referring to not cutting it up if he wants to try and save it from my previous post - not correcting you
    nor was i insinuating you don't know what your doing or giving bad advice...
    ...people are touchy on here geez...
    1 cut makes it easy and do-able
    if he wants no cuts best bet is with a lift and letting the rear down max and dropping some shit out of the way... can be done but not with out proper resources

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1BADDLS1 View Post
    i was referring to not cutting it up if he wants to try and save it from my previous post - not correcting you
    nor was i insinuating you don't know what your doing or giving bad advice...
    ...people are touchy on here geez...
    1 cut makes it easy and do-able
    if he wants no cuts best bet is with a lift and letting the rear down max and dropping some shit out of the way... can be done but not with out proper resources
    Your right. SORRY. I must have a hangover.

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    just take off the muffler and then make one cut about 6-8" in front of the rear axle on the part of the exhaust pipe after it turns up. it's easy to do and takes no time at all to install. the longest/hardest part is actually taking off the old system...

    that's what i did and i sold the SS muffler/tips and scraped the i-pipe. have fun...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9t8z28 View Post
    Your right. SORRY. I must have a hangover.

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    Hey 9t8z28
    I bought a set of Hooker Super-Comp. Headers for my Chevelle.
    Then put on a 2 1/2" duel system with short turbo mufflers.
    It was a great sounding car, it had 10:1 pistons and ran real good.

    I really like the older big block cars with carbs, they make a ton of
    torque. I later bought a 1970 L-78 402 and man what a screamer that engine was. It was all org. L-78, complete with steel crank and forged
    11-1 pistons and large port heads. It was about 1980 and I ran blue airplane fuel mixed with a lead additive for lub.

    Just one thing, I love the older muscle cars, but you can't get in one and drive it to Idaho like we can with our newer fbodied cars.

    jess ........

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    Hey 1BADDLS1 ,
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    Thanks for all the info.
    I do not have a lift for my car, just ramps and jack stands. I still want to do the install myself, but I know what you are saying about having enough room. I appreciate the info about 6 to 8 inches in front of the axle as that is the kind of specific info that I can use.

    You know I like the stock tips, they look real good. Wish I could get ones like that for my LM 11. Simple and effective (old school like).

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    Sorry to hear about your hangover.
    Not good.

    jess .....

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    Quote Originally Posted by jess View Post
    Hey 9t8z28
    I bought a set of Hooker Super-Comp. Headers for my Chevelle.
    Then put on a 2 1/2" duel system with short turbo mufflers.
    It was a great sounding car, it had 10:1 pistons and ran real good.

    I really like the older big block cars with carbs, they make a ton of
    torque. I later bought a 1970 L-78 402 and man what a screamer that engine was. It was all org. L-78, complete with steel crank and forged
    11-1 pistons and large port heads. It was about 1980 and I ran blue airplane fuel mixed with a lead additive for lub.

    Just one thing, I love the older muscle cars, but you can't get in one and drive it to Idaho like we can with our newer fbodied cars.

    jess ........
    Cool, man, I got a 69 Chevelle too. I drove it from eastern Pa to Chicago, Ill. Got about 6 miles to the gallon, if that. Big Blocks got amazing torque, but, damn, they get thirsty!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jess View Post
    Hey 1BADDLS1 ,
    9t8z28 , SSwt00SS

    Thanks for all the info.
    I do not have a lift for my car, just ramps and jack stands. I still want to do the install myself, but I know what you are saying about having enough room. I appreciate the info about 6 to 8 inches in front of the axle as that is the kind of specific info that I can use.

    You know I like the stock tips, they look real good. Wish I could get ones like that for my LM 11. Simple and effective (old school like).

    9t8z28
    Sorry to hear about your hangover.
    Not good.

    jess .....
    What stock tips are they and what do they look like?

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    jess, all i had was a floor jack and jack stands when i did mine in a my friends garage. just jack it all the way up until you feel you have the room that you need. good luck...

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    Hey 9t8z28

    I bet you were wound tight about that '69 Chevelle !
    What engine + tranny does it have ?
    Man those auto tranny's from that era had a great shifter, too cool.
    What gear does your Chevelle have ?

    I have a turbo 400 in my 1983 K-20 plow truck. I just change the fluid + filter in it every year or so and it is one tough tranny. I wish the 4l60e was even close to being as strong in my 02 ss, as the 1971 turbo 400 is in my plow truck. I worry about this transmission in my Camaro.

    By the way, the tips I am talking about are the tips that came stock on my 2002 Camaro ss.

    All the best

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    Hey SSwt00SS

    Thanks for your advice.

    The weather is my bigest enemy.
    I do not have a heated area, just a pole barn, but it keeps my ss covered.
    Last night it was 7 below zero here. Now we have a major snow storm heading our way, but it looks as though about 8 states can expect some of that so I should not be complaining. I don't have to like it though.

    Do you know if the sound is different from the duel outlet pipes on each side of one option LM, as compared to the single outlet tip option LM ?

    The duel tip on each side sort of remainds me of a euro car and I don't like that !

    All the best, and thanks !

    Jess ........

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