Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 30

Gear question

This is a discussion on Gear question within the Camaro / SS forums, part of the Vehicle Specific category; I while back I was looking at a camaro LT1 M6 pretty built and it had 3.73 gears. I know ...

  1. #1
    Rice Killa JwMonE99's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Myrtle Beach
    Age
    27
    Posts
    5,561

    Black With T-Tops
    96 Z28 M6

    Gear question

    I while back I was looking at a camaro LT1 M6 pretty built and it had 3.73 gears. I know it is the reccommended gears for autos. I am just curious is there any kind of advantage of having 3.73 over 4.10 gears on a M6 and vis versa? Is there less of a chance for the rear end to snap with the 3.73?

  2. #2
    Senior Member ss~zoso~ss's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    )
    Posts
    9,128

    SS: NBM, tan top
    1998-SS, 2010 Jetta TDI

    i'm also interested to know about this

  3. #3
    2 SS's are better than 1 Jays00ss's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Lathrop, Missouri
    Posts
    2,479

    NBM / Silver
    00 SS / 71 SS Elcamino

    IMO 3.73's is a waste of money with a 6 speed. There might be a 150-200 rpm difference between 3.73 and 4.10's, I went with 4,30's on my new 9"
    2000 SS Camaro Heads, Large cam, Fast 90, 9"w/430's and locker, yada yada yada... you get the picture

    1971 SS ElCamino 402 Big Block 550HP

    2006 Silverado 2500HD 496 cubic inches of pure muscle

  4. #4
    Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Gainesville, VA
    Posts
    654
    Quote Originally Posted by Jays00ss View Post
    IMO 3.73's is a waste of money with a 6 speed. There might be a 150-200 rpm difference between 3.73 and 4.10's, I went with 4,30's on my new 9"
    I agree complete waste of $$$ to put 3.73s in an M6. Our 10 bolts are weak period and IMO gear choice doesn't make a difference in how long it will last. It's how much power you are putting down and how you drive it.

  5. #5
    Rice Killa JwMonE99's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Myrtle Beach
    Age
    27
    Posts
    5,561

    Black With T-Tops
    96 Z28 M6

    How much HP does it take to break a 10 bolt?

  6. #6
    Rice Killa JwMonE99's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Myrtle Beach
    Age
    27
    Posts
    5,561

    Black With T-Tops
    96 Z28 M6

    Let says for a car that is a DD and races here and there

  7. #7
    2 SS's are better than 1 Jays00ss's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Lathrop, Missouri
    Posts
    2,479

    NBM / Silver
    00 SS / 71 SS Elcamino

    I've seen stock cars with m-6 grenade their rear, not a matter of IF its a matter of WHEN. You want to play? your going to have to pay.

  8. #8
    Rice Killa JwMonE99's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Myrtle Beach
    Age
    27
    Posts
    5,561

    Black With T-Tops
    96 Z28 M6

    Yea but 2 grand...

  9. #9
    2 SS's are better than 1 Jays00ss's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Lathrop, Missouri
    Posts
    2,479

    NBM / Silver
    00 SS / 71 SS Elcamino

    Quote Originally Posted by JwMonE99 View Post
    Yea but 2 grand...
    Like I said you have 2 pay to play. The 10 bolt is a pyle of crap. Drive your camaro like your grandma, don't take it to the track, don't do burnouts, Don't do light to light races, Yes your 10 bolt will last for a while. Go to the track, dump your clutch a few times, Yes it might last a little while but you better know a friend with a truck and trailer. It will eventually let you down. These cars where not built to go to the track. Modifcations to the drivetrain are badly needed to take any kind of abuse at all.

  10. #10
    Rice Killa JwMonE99's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Myrtle Beach
    Age
    27
    Posts
    5,561

    Black With T-Tops
    96 Z28 M6

    Is there any cheaper way to make it stronger?

  11. #11
    Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Maryland
    Posts
    158

    Blue
    99 Z28

    Not really. People waste a lot of $$ trying to "build" their 10 bolts. You're way better off just getting a 9" to begin with.

  12. #12
    Rice Killa JwMonE99's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Myrtle Beach
    Age
    27
    Posts
    5,561

    Black With T-Tops
    96 Z28 M6

    Has it ever been comfirmed to use an 8.8 from a mustang or ranger or something?

  13. #13
    Member Mr. Hyde's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Seattle
    Age
    57
    Posts
    913

    Jetstream Blue Metallic
    2008 Z06 Corvette

    I'm putting down 470+ at the crank, and know that all it takes is one hard launch to break the stock rear end. I "girdled" mine as a temp. band-aid until I save up the 2 grand. I'm going to go with a Moser 12 bolt. Gonna have 4:11's in there too! Lookin' forward to it, and in the mean time, I have all this power, and I have not launched it hard even ONE time for the very reason JAYS00SS was talking about. It's Russian roulette.

  14. #14
    Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Gainesville, VA
    Posts
    654
    Quote Originally Posted by JwMonE99 View Post
    Is there any cheaper way to make it stronger?
    Not really it's a waste of money to try. Just save for a 9, 12 bolt or S60. You don't want to go 8.8 either not as strong as the others and there is fab work involved. Best bet is to not launch your car hard, don't bolt up slicks and save $$$ for a new rear end.

    I have a rebuilt 10 bolt with 410s. I drive it pretty hard but never launch over 2500 and I have yet to put DRs on. I'm sure with a few more bolt ons and some track passes it will go. Hopefully I can get a 9in before that happens.

    Like everyone is saying it's not a matter of will it break but when.

  15. #15
    Senior Member splitfinger09's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Bartlesville, Oklahoma, United
    Age
    30
    Posts
    1,264

    Bright Rally Red
    2000 Camaro SS #5075 M6

    http://www.exoticperformanceplus.com...html?item=1116

    So whats the deal with this rear? Its only a thousand bucks. How hard would it be to get the other parts needed? Thanks

  16. #16
    Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Gainesville, VA
    Posts
    654
    Quote Originally Posted by splitfinger09 View Post
    http://www.exoticperformanceplus.com...html?item=1116

    So whats the deal with this rear? Its only a thousand bucks. How hard would it be to get the other parts needed? Thanks
    It has no center section that's why it's only 1k. The center section will run you another 1k. There really is no way around spending 2-2.5k on a rear end for our cars unless you go used.

  17. #17
    Rice Killa JwMonE99's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Myrtle Beach
    Age
    27
    Posts
    5,561

    Black With T-Tops
    96 Z28 M6

    Well hell where do we get used ones from?

  18. #18
    Rice Killa JwMonE99's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Myrtle Beach
    Age
    27
    Posts
    5,561

    Black With T-Tops
    96 Z28 M6

    Quote Originally Posted by 01LSS6Camaro View Post
    I'm putting down 470+ at the crank, and know that all it takes is one hard launch to break the stock rear end. I "girdled" mine as a temp. band-aid until I save up the 2 grand. I'm going to go with a Moser 12 bolt. Gonna have 4:11's in there too! Lookin' forward to it, and in the mean time, I have all this power, and I have not launched it hard even ONE time for the very reason JAYS00SS was talking about. It's Russian roulette.
    470+ to the crank huh, I dont think I am going to get that much HP for a while, so how well is the 10 bolt doing? Are you doing any kind of racing?

  19. #19
    Member Mr. Hyde's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Seattle
    Age
    57
    Posts
    913

    Jetstream Blue Metallic
    2008 Z06 Corvette

    I started with 405HP cuz it's a Z06 LS6 crate engine, and I have the usual mods...cam, LT headers, CAI, full length LM system, full on tune, bla bla bla...so 470+ isn't really that much, but it drained the ol savings account to do it all at once! So, at this time I only have about 1700 miles on her, I've really only just got past the broken in stage. I've put my foot in her a few times , but always from a roll. I've beat a couple of unsuspecting Z06's, not to mention a few Mustangs, and more than my share of bowls of rice!
    But the Vette's were from a roll [one was on the freeway] and the others were from stops. I just have not launched her HARD. The girdle has appeared to help because it's still in one piece. But I'm running street tires (285's) on stock rims. I know that she'll break into the low 12's if not high 11's with the 12 bolt and 4:11's. But for right now, I simply do NOT trust that wimpy rear end!

  20. #20
    Rice Killa JwMonE99's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Myrtle Beach
    Age
    27
    Posts
    5,561

    Black With T-Tops
    96 Z28 M6

    So is it safter to race from a roll?
    and from a dig we shouldnt launch from anything more then 2500 RPM right?

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. gear oil question
    By kevk77 in forum Drivetrain
    Replies: 13
    Last Post: 04-06-2010, 02:47 PM
  2. 3.73 gear question
    By therobman in forum Firebird / WS6
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 12-20-2006, 12:41 PM
  3. Gear Question
    By rbrack in forum Drivetrain
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 10-06-2006, 07:39 AM
  4. Gear question
    By TheAntiRice in forum Drivetrain
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 12-28-2005, 10:20 AM
  5. M6 first gear question
    By third_shift|studios in forum Manual Transmission
    Replies: 11
    Last Post: 12-25-2005, 08:36 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •