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    I can't believe that people are argueing over the camaro. I think most people miss the whole point of the SS option, it was never so much about more power, but came with many other upgraded parts that set it apart from the average Z28 just like Blackdeath stated.
    You can't compare a modded Z28 to a stock SS,,,,thats like comparing apples to oranges. One has been messed with and the other has not.
    There is more to the SS than just a hood and spoiler.
    The SS will be more collectable in the future, people that own them know it,,,which is why they still command premium prices, and probably always will.
    I currently own a standard Z28 and an SS. Yes I like the SS better but not because of the hood or spoiler, I couldn't care less about that,,,I just like that fact that it's the real deal, and it's different from most camaros running around. Everytime I turn the corner I can see a standard Z28, hell they are parked all over the place,,,,,,but I rarely see an SS running around.
    It's silly to sit here and debate which is better, it's really a matter of personal taste and what you can afford.
    Who cares if you mod a standard Z28 and make it faster,,,thats not the point. Both cars respond in the same manor, thats not the real issue here. The real difference is collectability, resale value, the fact that you own a little bit of history that probably won't be repeated if you have an SS. It has nothing to do with HP numbers or my car is faster than your car So what,,,my SS chevelle will smoke my SS camaro and I have alot less money in that car than I do in the Camaro, doesn't prove anything. You can throw enough money at any car and make it fast,,,,woopie Larry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firebirdjones View Post
    I can't believe that people are argueing over the camaro. I think most people miss the whole point of the SS option, it was never so much about more power, but came with many other upgraded parts that set it apart from the average Z28 just like Blackdeath stated.
    You can't compare a modded Z28 to a stock SS,,,,thats like comparing apples to oranges. One has been messed with and the other has not.
    There is more to the SS than just a hood and spoiler.
    The SS will be more collectable in the future, people that own them know it,,,which is why they still command premium prices, and probably always will.
    I currently own a standard Z28 and an SS. Yes I like the SS better but not because of the hood or spoiler, I couldn't care less about that,,,I just like that fact that it's the real deal, and it's different from most camaros running around. Everytime I turn the corner I can see a standard Z28, hell they are parked all over the place,,,,,,but I rarely see an SS running around.
    It's silly to sit here and debate which is better, it's really a matter of personal taste and what you can afford.
    Who cares if you mod a standard Z28 and make it faster,,,thats not the point. Both cars respond in the same manor, thats not the real issue here. The real difference is collectability, resale value, the fact that you own a little bit of history that probably won't be repeated if you have an SS. It has nothing to do with HP numbers or my car is faster than your car So what,,,my SS chevelle will smoke my SS camaro and I have alot less money in that car than I do in the Camaro, doesn't prove anything. You can throw enough money at any car and make it fast,,,,woopie Larry.
    Damn right......I agree totally. I own a Z/28 and an SS also. I like my SS better because of the above mentioned reasons but that doesn't mean that I don't like the Z/28, it is a hell of a car also.

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    I started with a '95 z28 but I have always wanted an SS so I bought an SS, when I was finally able to afford it. It's a collectors car IMO since they are no longer made and i have all of my stock parts to convert her back if i should ever decide to sell it someday...

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    Larry makes great points in his post and I agree with him.

    For anyone that thinks that the SS has always been the premium package compared to the Z28, they need to do some research on the history of the Camaro. In '69, with both the SS and Z28 options available, the Z28 package was the more desired, prestigous package of the two, not the SS version.

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    I am flattered, thanks for that. I hope people don't take that the wrong way,,,I am just puzzled that we are all F-body people on here but yet we have to bicker about which model is better

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firebirdjones View Post
    I am flattered, thanks for that. I hope people don't take that the wrong way,,,I am just puzzled that we are all F-body people on here but yet we have to bicker about which model is better
    I don't understand either but to each their own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firebirdjones View Post
    I am flattered, thanks for that. I hope people don't take that the wrong way,,,I am just puzzled that we are all F-body people on here but yet we have to bicker about which model is better
    could not agree more!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Y2KPewterSS View Post
    Larry makes great points in his post and I agree with him.

    For anyone that thinks that the SS has always been the premium package compared to the Z28, they need to do some research on the history of the Camaro. In '69, with both the SS and Z28 options available, the Z28 package was the more desired, prestigous package of the two, not the SS version.
    Not trying to keep the bickering ongoing but..... in 1969 you could order your car several different ways. If you ordered the standard SS package or the standard Z28 package, then yes you are correct about the Z28 being the more desired car. But you could also get a Z28/SS package which is what the last SS Camaros built truly were. This special order was the more desired package over the stock Z28. Just stating a fact so please do not think that I am bitchin about which car is better. I think that the Z28 and SS are both great cars.

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    To elaborate more on that subject, the Z28 was only available with an extra cost RS option from 67-73 with one engine available. The SS was a different package back then and had a very large engine option list to go with it, depending on years, the drivetrains varied and great deal, and the RS package was also available on the SS as an extra cost option. You could even skip the SS package and just order an RS package,,,you had a ton of choices back then. Unfortunately that has been taken away from us.

    Nowadays, the 4th gens all included the same drivetrain packages for the most part between SS and Z28 but had more subtle differences.
    But yes I agree, they are all great cars that I see no reason to bicker over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firebirdjones View Post
    To elaborate more on that subject, the Z28 was only available with an extra cost RS option from 67-73 with one engine available. The SS was a different package back then and had a very large engine option list to go with it, depending on years, the drivetrains varied and great deal, and the RS package was also available on the SS as an extra cost option. You could even skip the SS package and just order an RS package,,,you had a ton of choices back then. Unfortunately that has been taken away from us.

    Nowadays, the 4th gens all included the same drivetrain packages for the most part between SS and Z28 but had more subtle differences.
    But yes I agree, they are all great cars that I see no reason to bicker over.
    You are correct....I should of said RS instead of SS.....thanks for setting me straight (haha). I have a question that you may can answer for me.....I have a 2002 SS, one of the last couple hundred built with basically all of the SLP options. I was wondering how is the easiest way to tell if I have the LS6 block and is there any advantages of having the LS6 block vs the LS1 block?

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    Ya there is a casting number on the back of the block just below the driver side cylinder head.

    LS6 block is #12561168

    It's very hard to see. I even tried mirrors and such with no luck. I gave up until I actually had my transmission out for a rear main seal leak. Then it was easy to see.

    Only advantage is some crank case venting that is cast into the block. Was said to relieve some pressure at high rpm. Hope that helps. Larry.

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    its also a lil darker in color from what i heared

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    Quote Originally Posted by niterydr View Post
    Not trying to keep the bickering ongoing but..... in 1969 you could order your car several different ways. If you ordered the standard SS package or the standard Z28 package, then yes you are correct about the Z28 being the more desired car. But you could also get a Z28/SS package which is what the last SS Camaros built truly were. This special order was the more desired package over the stock Z28. Just stating a fact so please do not think that I am bitchin about which car is better. I think that the Z28 and SS are both great cars.
    From what I've read over the years, I think the SS was intended for drag racers, with bigger engines available. The Z28s were intended for road racers/Trans Am, with better handling. And the RS was an appearance package.

    Some cars had a combination of the packages, making them that much better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jigger1166 View Post
    From what I've read over the years, I think the SS was intended for drag racers, with bigger engines available. The Z28s were intended for road racers/Trans Am, with better handling. And the RS was an appearance package.

    Some cars had a combination of the packages, making them that much better.

    Just my 2 cents
    Your 2 cents are correct. The reason that the Z/28 came with the 302 optioned engine was due to displacement regulations in the Trans Am Series road races, but back in the day you could pretty much order what you wanted, RS/SS, RS/Z28, Z28/SS. And for those of you who don't think that I know what I am talking about, I checked and you could order a Z28/SS optioned car back in 1969. It was a Z28 with additional SS options just like the Z28/RS was a Z28 with RS options. The Z28/RS was the preferred option on the Z28 mainly because of the appearance of the hideaway headlights and the slotted taillights, which made a NASTY & MEAN looking machine!! I have recently found a 1969 RS/SS 4 speed car that I am trying to purchase. The car has been sitting underneath this guys barn for the last 10 years. The body is great, the 4 speed is still in the car but it is missing the engine.......anyone know what this car is worth????? Oh yeah, it originally came with the 396 big block.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Y2KPewterSS View Post
    Larry makes great points in his post and I agree with him.

    For anyone that thinks that the SS has always been the premium package compared to the Z28, they need to do some research on the history of the Camaro. In '69, with both the SS and Z28 options available, the Z28 package was the more desired, prestigous package of the two, not the SS version.
    when i was a teen i got to ride in a 69 frekin awesome it had the 302 engine

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    Quote Originally Posted by rrgray8 View Post
    the ss looks better go with it
    i think the SS looks better also.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by niterydr View Post
    Your 2 cents are correct. The reason that the Z/28 came with the 302 optioned engine was due to displacement regulations in the Trans Am Series road races, but back in the day you could pretty much order what you wanted, RS/SS, RS/Z28, Z28/SS. And for those of you who don't think that I know what I am talking about, I checked and you could order a Z28/SS optioned car back in 1969. It was a Z28 with additional SS options just like the Z28/RS was a Z28 with RS options. The Z28/RS was the preferred option on the Z28 mainly because of the appearance of the hideaway headlights and the slotted taillights, which made a NASTY & MEAN looking machine!! I have recently found a 1969 RS/SS 4 speed car that I am trying to purchase. The car has been sitting underneath this guys barn for the last 10 years. The body is great, the 4 speed is still in the car but it is missing the engine.......anyone know what this car is worth????? Oh yeah, it originally came with the 396 big block.
    It's hard to say what it's worth, especially without the matching numbers engine. The question is....what are you willing to pay? If it's in good cond..I wouldn't hesitate to pay $7000-8000 for it. After there's an engine in it, it would be worth over $10,000 to me.

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    I have a 98 Z28, but liked the looks of the SS. So I was looking at them on Ebay. Then I found a 2000 SS vert. with 91,000 miles and a small dent in the right quarter for $9800. I checked the book price and found it booked for$12,000. I know the SS's will be worth more than the Z28's years from now, and a SS vert., even more. So, I bought it.

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