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This is a discussion on anyone got any b4c camaros? within the Camaro / SS forums, part of the Vehicle Specific category; Originally Posted by 67CamaroRSSS IIRC, all A4 B4C's have 3.23 rear gears. Although CompNine shows there were 42 '94 B4C ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 67CamaroRSSS View Post
    IIRC, all A4 B4C's have 3.23 rear gears.
    Although CompNine shows there were 42 '94 B4C A4 Camaros w/ the 2.73 gears. That's the only exception I've found. Otherwise nothing special about the drivetrains or engines other than being the V8 in plain-wrappers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zboy2012 View Post
    the b4c is a z28 with the ss package tuned for high sped pursuits
    I'm sure it wouldn't take much to tweak, but the camaro had slumping sales since about '91 or '92. With it not being a hot seller to begin with, I doubt they would spend any extra time and effort to re-program certain things on a car with a package that was not heavily produced. Buddy of mine was a Lieutenant for the county, they had 2 B4Cs, he states nothing about a tune...

    Quote Originally Posted by zboy2012 View Post
    ya pretty much that an maybe a gear im not sure
    All I've ever known there to be, were 3.23s in all B4Cs. I'm sure there's exceptions, but most common (by a huge margin), would be likely to find one with 3.23s. Mine has it.

    Now with regards to hacking up a B4Cs roof....

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    ya it would lose value and as far as i know there isnt a price difference.
    Value? What value would it hold? I was bashing on B4Cs months ago... I didn't even realize this white one was a B4C until I cleaned it up and took a good look at the door jamb. If I was in the market for an LS1 Z, I would stear clear of B4Cs. There is handful on this forum, that have had bad luck with theirs. I only have this one because the previous owner was giving it away for the amount he wanted. And it still needs work.

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    if they did not have a tune like everyone says then why is they run a quicker 1/4 mile? cuz we had a 2002 ls6 camaro before this one and it ran 12.8 stock an our b4c stock ran 11.7

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    Quote Originally Posted by zboy2012 View Post
    if they did not have a tune like everyone says then why is they run a quicker 1/4 mile? cuz we had a 2002 ls6 camaro before this one and it ran 12.8 stock an our b4c stock ran 11.7


    Mines not stock and it won't run 11.7

    Yours isn't stock, and I bet any and everything it won't run 11.7

    Will a new C6 corvette even run 11.7?

    I'm under the assumption that what you're trying to imply, is that this "tune" that comes on these B4Cs, will propel it to 11.7 in the 1/4? So it went from 305hp, to 500 or so?

    That's some honduh talk if I've ever heard it

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrMasterCraft View Post


    Mines not stock and it won't run 11.7

    Yours isn't stock, and I bet any and everything it won't run 11.7

    Will a new C6 corvette even run 11.7?

    I'm under the assumption that what you're trying to imply, is that this "tune" that comes on these B4Cs, will propel it to 11.7 in the 1/4? So it went from 305hp, to 500 or so?

    That's some honduh talk if I've ever heard it
    not quite cuz dyno sheets say it has 405 hp an we ran it at track stock an it ran an 11.7 with a DOT.

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    but u can believe what ever u want cuz i know what the car runs an i know that the car is stock so if u dont believe it thats ok cuz i know what the papers say. so lets just drop the whole 1/4 mile times

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    Quote Originally Posted by zboy2012 View Post
    not quite cuz dyno sheets say it has 405 hp an we ran it at track stock an it ran an 11.7 with a DOT.
    No stock 4th gen came with 405hp. If by dyno sheet you mean yours personally had 405rwhp, then yes, an 11.7 is definitely attainable under the right circumstances. If yours is producing 405 hp then it has been modified.

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    Quote Originally Posted by konigandy6 View Post
    No stock 4th gen came with 405hp. If by dyno sheet you mean yours personally had 405rwhp, then yes, an 11.7 is definitely attainable under the right circumstances. If yours is producing 405 hp then it has been modified.
    but what im trying to say is that it came from the factory with an ls6 intake an all that other stuff because of it being a b4c.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zboy2012 View Post
    if they did not have a tune like everyone says then why is they run a quicker 1/4 mile? cuz we had a 2002 ls6 camaro before this one and it ran 12.8 stock an our b4c stock ran 11.7
    1. No Camaro came with an LS6 engine. LS6 block yes; LS6 intake yes; complete engine (heads and cam) no.

    2. If you got a 12.8 out of a stock Camaro then all the stars must have been aligned. My stock Z28 (with a 2.73 gear) could do no better than a 13.6x here in PHX at Firebird Raceway.

    3. 11.7 stock? Got any proof of that? My 02 is modded (see sig) and even converting for DA it wont do better than a 12.2.

    Sorry son, no disrespect but all the old hands here know better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zboy2012 View Post
    but what im trying to say is that it came from the factory with an ls6 intake an all that other stuff because of it being a b4c.
    Not just B4C's. ALL LS1 engines in 01 and 02 had an LS6 intake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 67CamaroRSSS View Post
    1. No Camaro came with an LS6 engine. LS6 block yes; LS6 intake yes; complete engine (heads and cam) no.

    2. If you got a 12.8 out of a stock Camaro then all the stars must have been aligned. My stock Z28 (with a 2.73 gear) could do no better than a 13.6x here in PHX at Firebird Raceway.

    3. 11.7 stock? Got any proof of that? My 02 is modded (see sig) and even converting for DA it wont do better than a 12.2.

    Sorry son, no disrespect but all the old hands here know better.
    in 2002 GM ran short on ls1 engines and our 2002 camaro came from the factory with an ls6 engine we had papers and all, and from what we researched there were like 10 or 25% 02 z28 camaros came with the ls6 engine becuz of the supply reasons
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    Quote Originally Posted by zboy2012 View Post
    in 2002 GM ran short on ls1 engines and our 2002 camaro came from the factory with an ls6 engine we had papers and all
    LS6 block... not complete engine. Heads are still 241 cast LS1's, no sodium valves, no LS6 cam, no LS6 valve train etc... Just the block.

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    Quote Originally Posted by konigandy6 View Post
    LS6 block... not complete engine. Heads are still 241 cast LS1's, no sodium valves, no LS6 cam, no LS6 valve train etc... Just the block.
    but from what we researched 10 or 25% of them came with the complete ls6 because of the supply reasons

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    Quote Originally Posted by zboy2012 View Post
    in 2002 GM ran short on ls1 engines and our 2002 camaro came from the factory with an ls6 engine we had papers and all
    Got ironclad proof?

    Like Andy stated: Block? Yes. Heads (243's with sodium filled valves) and cam? No.

    And they used the block for the reason you stated: They ran out of LS1 blocks. The difference is that the LS6 block is a "window" block, i.e., the blukheads between the mains are ventilated one to the other.

    Remember, all engines are basically an air pump and the pistons displaced just as much volume going down (inside the crank case) as they do going up. All that air has to go somewhere. It's easier on the reciprocating assy (piston, pin, rod and crank throw) if it has more room to displace air inside the block.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zboy2012 View Post
    but from what we researched 10 or 25% of them came with the complete ls6 because of the supply reasons
    10% of 2001's came with an LS6 BLOCK and 25% of 2002's came with an LS6 BLOCK. Just the block, not the complete engine. 0% of Fbodys came from the factory with a complete LS6.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zboy2012 View Post
    but from what we researched 10 or 25% of them came with the complete ls6 because of the supply reasons
    Once again: Proof?

    While your numbers are correct they did just the block, otherwise they'd of had to charge for the better engine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 67CamaroRSSS View Post
    Got ironclad proof?

    Like Andy stated: Block? Yes. Heads (243's with sodium filled valves) and cam? No.

    And they used the block for the reason you stated: They ran out of LS1 blocks. The difference is that the LS6 block is a "window" block, i.e., the blukheads between the mains are ventilated one to the other.

    Remember, all engines are basically an air pump and the pistons displaced just as much volume going down (inside the crank case) as they do going up. All that air has to go somewhere. It's easier on the reciprocating assy (piston, pin, rod and crank throw) if it has more room to displace air inside the block.
    we have a book that states it

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    Quote Originally Posted by zboy2012 View Post
    we have a book that states it
    I have a map that states the Earth is flat...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 67CamaroRSSS View Post
    Got ironclad proof?

    Like Andy stated: Block? Yes. Heads (243's with sodium filled valves) and cam? No.

    And they used the block for the reason you stated: They ran out of LS1 blocks. The difference is that the LS6 block is a "window" block, i.e., the blukheads between the mains are ventilated one to the other.

    Remember, all engines are basically an air pump and the pistons displaced just as much volume going down (inside the crank case) as they do going up. All that air has to go somewhere. It's easier on the reciprocating assy (piston, pin, rod and crank throw) if it has more room to displace air inside the block.
    we have a book that states it and when i find it its sumwhere in the house ill put title an page pic etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by zboy2012 View Post
    we have a book that states it
    I can guarantee you without a shadow of a doubt that you do not have a complete LS6 under the hood of your car if it's completely OEM. I'd like to know what book it is you speak of, because if they didn't specify it was simply just the engine block, I would throw that book away, you obviously can't trust anything else it says.

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