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This is a discussion on 500 rwhp group within the Camaro / SS forums, part of the Vehicle Specific category; Originally Posted by Quik 118mph doesnt equal 520rwhp more like 440rwhp It depends on how heavy the car is and ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quik View Post
    118mph doesnt equal 520rwhp more like 440rwhp
    It depends on how heavy the car is and how bad the DA was that day.


    Mine traps at 118 mph and some change with a 3,000 DA (still has some in it). Made 638 hp at the flywheel,,,pushing through a 400 turbo with a loose converter and a 12 bolt,,,,,,might still hit 500 at the wheels (never chassis dynoed the car)

    But it's a 4,108 lbs. tank.

    Really need more details to get nit picky on that stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hi-Po View Post
    What?

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    No cam? Stock cam?

    With a 100 shot? That One hundred. How in the heck do you figure 520 HP and 580 TQ? Thats gotta be the meanest 100 shot ever made.
    thats been said by a few people, dave from nitrous outlet, my tuner, im just telling you i put what nx says is 100 jets, but i gained 160, so common knowledge would tell you its a 160 shot not a 100, but then on the other hand, im still only spraying n20 out of the same sized orrfice as anyone else with the same kit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Quik View Post
    118mph doesnt equal 520rwhp more like 440rwhp
    your right, but i mentioned something about using an empty bottle, with maybe 3lbs, it took about 30 minutes on the warmer to get 900psi, so i had no shot at making a full run. ill head back soon

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    Quote Originally Posted by camarojunky74 View Post
    thats been said by a few people, dave from nitrous outlet, my tuner, im just telling you i put what nx says is 100 jets, but i gained 160, so common knowledge would tell you its a 160 shot not a 100, but then on the other hand, im still only spraying n20 out of the same sized orrfice as anyone else with the same kit.



    your right, but i mentioned something about using an empty bottle, with maybe 3lbs, it took about 30 minutes on the warmer to get 900psi, so i had no shot at making a full run. ill head back soon
    if you make the power you claim you do then your car should trap near 125-130. youre not going to pick up that kind of mph even with a good bottle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quik View Post
    if you make the power you claim you do then your car should trap near 125-130. youre not going to pick up that kind of mph even with a good bottle.
    Not necessarily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9t8z28 View Post
    Can I post mine since I am just shy of 500rwhp by 14 hp ??
    Actually, if I had it dynod on a Dynojet I would be over that!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Quik View Post
    if you make the power you claim you do then your car should trap near 125-130. youre not going to pick up that kind of mph even with a good bottle.
    in my area, local cars putting down similar power are touchng 24's. so we will see how close i get. plus are you really arguing dyno numbers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firebirdjones View Post
    Not necessarily.
    500rwhp all day long in a 3500lb car traps those times unless your a mile above sea level

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quik View Post
    500rwhp all day long in a 3500lb car traps those times unless your a mile above sea level
    Makes me a sad Luos.....
    Bandimere is a GREAT track, but damn is it a slow one.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Luos View Post
    Makes me a sad Luos.....
    Bandimere is a GREAT track, but damn is it a slow one.




    See sig for mods.
    Best trap speed is 119MPH...DA over 7000.
    That would royally piss me off. Nice area for views though.


    BTW, my brother is no longer moving to CO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quik View Post
    500rwhp all day long in a 3500lb car traps those times unless your a mile above sea level
    Many other variables that we could go on about for pages.

    Bottom line is,,,it's just not as simple as you made it out to be. One said HP doesn't necessarily mean a said MPH.

    Most of these 4th gens don't weigh 3500 lbs. either, especially when a driver is sitting in it.
    The lightest one I've ever had was a race weight of 3,770 lbs. You really have to start cutting weight from these things to get down to a fighting weight of 3500 or less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hi-Po View Post
    That would royally piss me off. Nice area for views though.


    BTW, my brother is no longer moving to CO.
    Yep I now live 5,300 feet up in Prescott. I raced for years in Cincinnati at 700 feet above sea level. But the weather played a factory there,,,,with humidity and hot temps,,,,the DA was never below 3,000 feet most of the summer.
    Now in Prescott we don't have a track up here, I have to drive down to Phoenix about 1200 feet above. Makes tuning a real challenge.

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    Best DA I had all last year was just over 7900....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Luos View Post
    Best DA I had all last year was just over 7900....
    Man that stinks, we have to get you down out of the clouds.

    There has to be a better track closer to sea level somewhere around you,,,isn't there???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firebirdjones View Post
    Man that stinks, we have to get you down out of the clouds.

    There has to be a better track closer to sea level somewhere around you,,,isn't there???
    500+ miles.
    Which isn't bad, but I have been WAY too busy to even attempt it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Luos View Post
    500+ miles.
    Which isn't bad, but I have been WAY too busy to even attempt it.
    Then how far would your tune be off?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Luos View Post
    500+ miles.
    Which isn't bad, but I have been WAY too busy to even attempt it.
    Sheeeesh thats not a stone throw for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by c5z28 View Post
    Then how far would your tune be off?
    Checking my tune with a wideband,,,from Cincinnati (700 feet) to Prescott (5,200 feet) I found that the car richens up about .3-.4 tenths on the wideband.

    So I have to lean them out up here in Prescott. But when I go to the track in Phoenix (about 1200 feet) I have to fatten them up a bit.

    Then you have to factor in DA on top of that,,,which can go either way.

    In Luos' case, his tuning difference would be a little more extreme since he is higher up than me.

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    From what I understand...I would probably end up running fat down at sea level.
    I also believe I would have to have a little timing pulled...as I can get away with more since the thin air effectively lowers compression.

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