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This is a discussion on 4th gen vs 5th gen.... within the Camaro / SS forums, part of the Vehicle Specific category; Originally Posted by Smittro Oh I know it's just not that often I see them run road courses. Every one ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smittro View Post
    Oh I know it's just not that often I see them run road courses. Every one I did watch was hilarious constant spin outs and such .. I'm an F1 guy @ heart..
    That's the beauty of it. Leave the independent stuff for the sissies

    F1 stuff??? You mean those open wheel cars??? That's just unamerican.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firebirdjones View Post
    That's the beauty of it. Leave the independent stuff for the sissies

    F1 stuff??? You mean those open wheel cars??? That's just unamerican.
    What a terrible thing to say to your F-bod brethren.. I'll neber own a forein car..
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    Just messin' with ya. It's all good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smittro View Post
    Just in suspention alone the 5th gen has all other production Camaros beat imho. I'd put a 4 wheel independant against a pickup axle car any day of the week. My nearly 20 yr old z34 will out corner my Camaro without even trying... That's with just a lousy 7" wheel too..
    Don't necessarily write off the solid axle cars.....with the right components they can handle too.

    BTW I used to own a z34 and they were sweet handling cars, especially with cornerning and turns. As much as I liked my z34, it did not feel as solid or stick as well to the (dry) road as my 4th gen. ss. My 4th gen also feels more confident when driven hard, so kudos to gm for doing what they could do given the constraints of having a solid axle suspension.

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    it just seems to me that the 5th gen was put together wrong .. To fat and to big B pillars ... and to big wheels ..

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    i would of went a different way with the 5th gen but all in all i think they did a good job I've driven my dads and I just have way to many mixed emotions on the car. The rear end is growing on me but I dont like how tall and big the wheels are it just doesnt seem like a Camaro. Plus all the camaros at car shows now are the 5th gens with huge 24inch rims and i just cry thinking why would someone do that???

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    Quote Originally Posted by 10spokess View Post
    i would of went a different way with the 5th gen but all in all i think they did a good job I've driven my dads and I just have way to many mixed emotions on the car. The rear end is growing on me but I dont like how tall and big the wheels are it just doesnt seem like a Camaro. Plus all the camaros at car shows now are the 5th gens with huge 24inch rims and i just cry thinking why would someone do that???
    looks like a Tonka toy or a Foose drawing gone very wrong ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by snaggeltooth View Post
    looks like a Tonka toy or a Foose drawing gone very wrong ..
    exactly my point

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    Quote Originally Posted by snaggeltooth View Post
    looks like a Tonka toy or a Foose drawing gone very wrong ..
    Someone else who agrees. Not all cars look good with giant wheels.
    If you want to put truck wheels on a car buy a truck.

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    I agree, I never was a big wheel person. Actually I don't fit in with most of the younger crowd at all. I still own cars with 14 inch wheels and feel anything over 15 inch is too much. I like sidewalls on the tires, not rubberbands.

    I've had 3rd and 4th gens with 16 inch wheels and thought I could live with it. Then bought a couple of SS 4th gens with their 17's and just think that's over the top. It's been years and I'm still not used to the look. I've always liked how they look when people put 15's on. I just haven't decided if or how I want to grind on the brakes to make them fit.
    Besides that, tires are just too expensive anyway, larger wheels up the cost.

    There are car clubs that don't like that stuff either, we recently had a car show that listed on the flier,,,"anything with larger than 20" wheels is not allowed in the show"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firebirdjones View Post
    I agree, I never was a big wheel person. Actually I don't fit in with most of the younger crowd at all. I still own cars with 14 inch wheels and feel anything over 15 inch is too much. I like sidewalls on the tires, not rubberbands.

    I've had 3rd and 4th gens with 16 inch wheels and thought I could live with it. Then bought a couple of SS 4th gens with their 17's and just think that's over the top. It's been years and I'm still not used to the look. I've always liked how they look when people put 15's on. I just haven't decided if or how I want to grind on the brakes to make them fit.
    Besides that, tires are just too expensive anyway, larger wheels up the cost.

    There are car clubs that don't like that stuff either, we recently had a car show that listed on the flier,,,"anything with larger than 20" wheels is not allowed in the show"
    I'm with you. I have a hard time with 17" and larger wheels on any muscle car. I don't like it at all. I think it ruins everything

    On my first Chevelle, I ran staggered 14 and 15" Chrome Craigers and I liked it Skinny up front and fat on the back
    But then again, I had it jacked up in the back with air shocks too

    I eventually came around to 15" polished Centerlines all around, but that was more a financial choice

    Times... they change I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by KahanaReef View Post
    I'm with you. I have a hard time with 17" and larger wheels on any muscle car. I don't like it at all. I think it ruins everything

    On my first Chevelle, I ran staggered 14 and 15" Chrome Craigers and I liked it Skinny up front and fat on the back
    But then again, I had it jacked up in the back with air shocks too

    I eventually came around to 15" polished Centerlines all around, but that was more a financial choice

    Times... they change I guess
    You are right about that, times change, and there are some of us that just refuse to change with it I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firebirdjones View Post
    You are right about that, times change, and there are some of us that just refuse to change with it I guess
    We're such rebels

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    4th generation still, although the 5th has grown on me some. I too have been in and driven a 5th generation 2SS/RS with a 6-speed and wasn't very impressed. It's comfortable, I'll give it that and is of better quality in fit and finish. But, these are muscle cars that are built for performance/speed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firebirdjones View Post
    You are right about that, times change, and there are some of us that just refuse to change with it I guess
    Thats okay. Some of us younger guys like the stock size wheels too. When I bought wheels for my Bravada a few years ago the guy at the tire store looked at me like I was nuts because I wanted to stay with the 16s. Saved some dough and still got some decent AR wheels for $100 each. They look good and set my Bravad apart from the others I see with chromed 18s or bigger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firebirdjones View Post
    Just messin' with ya. It's all good.
    Yeah I know you're just messin' round. But for real tho the sound of an F1 car is music to my ears. I'm addicted to that screaming 12-16 thousand rpm sound and the clutchless shift.. Tho I'll never build an engine such as those, it's what got me into the (under 4.0L) small displacement v6's.. When I was still running my tuned z34's TDC to 7200 (if I really was pushing) the sound of that 4 valve was music to my ears. When she is finished she'll be able to hit 8-9k rpm then I'll just . I'd love to have one of the 304hp 5th gen v6 Camaro's thank goodness the 60* replaced the 3800II
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smittro View Post
    Yeah I know you're just messin' round. But for real tho the sound of an F1 car is music to my ears. I'm addicted to that screaming 12-16 thousand rpm sound and the clutchless shift.. Tho I'll never build an engine such as those, it's what got me into the (under 4.0L) small displacement v6's.. When I was still running my tuned z34's TDC to 7200 (if I really was pushing) the sound of that 4 valve was music to my ears. When she is finished she'll be able to hit 8-9k rpm then I'll just . I'd love to have one of the 304hp 5th gen v6 Camaro's thank goodness the 60* replaced the 3800II
    I've always been a V8 man myself. The only V6 I could stand to own had a hair dryer on it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Z28_Driver View Post
    Thats okay. Some of us younger guys like the stock size wheels too. When I bought wheels for my Bravada a few years ago the guy at the tire store looked at me like I was nuts because I wanted to stay with the 16s. Saved some dough and still got some decent AR wheels for $100 each. They look good and set my Bravad apart from the others I see with chromed 18s or bigger.
    That's refreshing to here. I thought all us old folk were just in a world of our own

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firebirdjones View Post
    You are right about that, times change, and there are some of us that just refuse to change with it I guess
    i think it depends on the app..if it is just a show car..yea 19+ will work..but for most apps for the f-body and muscle cars in general (exclusion zr1 and z06) 17-18 is about the max.

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    i agree witheveryone and thought i was the only one that absolutley hated the rear of them untill i read this. my mother in law bought one there good looking on the sides and front but the rear is just hidious. i like my 4thgen

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