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This is a discussion on 2002 vs 2010 Camaro within the Camaro / SS forums, part of the Vehicle Specific category; Originally Posted by Zinergy Lol NO Well I thought I'd try to sneak that one by...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zinergy View Post
    Lol NO
    Well I thought I'd try to sneak that one by

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    "Not surprisingly, the V8-equipped Camaro SS delivers better numbers across the board. Chevy's Camaro SS outfitted with the 422-hp 6.2-liter LS3 V8 six-speed manual hits 60 mph in 4.9 seconds and runs a 13.4-second quarter-mile at 108 mph according to Oppenheiser. Strangely enough, Oppenheiser also claims that the automatic-equipped SS Camaro, which is rated at 400 hp, runs from zero to 60 mph in just 4.6 seconds and through the quarter-mile in 13.3 seconds. "We optimized the shift points," he said."


    something still seems wrong to me here. so ya they have more power but the times dont show it. so something is lacking. I would take a stock 4th gen over a stock 5th any day of the week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LS1Jason View Post
    you don't count!
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    I suppose "technically speaking" that 408 did "bolt in"
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    Then i have to ask what do you consider full bolt ons? Cause a 120mph trap speed require spray, FI or a cam setup. All of which i dont consider a bolt on
    Awwww come on. i still paid less than a new one too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Crash View Post
    Awwww come on. i still paid less than a new one too.

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    I'm gonna go with reason being a higher base curb weight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Crash View Post
    something still seems wrong to me here. so ya they have more power but the times dont show it. so something is lacking. I would take a stock 4th gen over a stock 5th any day of the week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Crash View Post


    my car has full bolt-on's and i trap 120MPH. Something else to think about is that the new Camaro weighs more.
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    I'm gonna go with reason being a higher base curb weight.
    yes sir i agree

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Crash View Post
    yes sir i agree
    I think by this point everyone knows the new camaro weigh 3800lbs. But still it has 422hp and can stil ltrap 110-111mph as its already been done. Most full bolt on ls1 cars run 110-111mph trap speeds. So i think it would still be a good race with advantage to the bolt on ls1 car. If the ls1 car has drag radials and gears its over.
    Last edited by Zinergy; 07-10-2009 at 07:19 AM.

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    Eh,,,all the new camaro needs is a little more power. How long do you think that's going to last??
    I don't think it'll be long before the new camaro's running around are going to be tinkered with and trapping 115 or better with just bolt on's. Wait till someone just sticks a camshaft in one.
    I'm sure the one I ran was still stock, but I think the longer they are around,,,just like everything else,,,you will start seeing some pretty quick ones. In which case they will be a handfull for even a head/cam full tilt 4th gen.
    There are already several challengers around that are modded, that aren't even a year old yet
    As far as all these 4th gens,,,there are probably only a handfull left on the planet that haven't had a wrench turned on em'

    Stock usually only lasts until after that temp tag is gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firebirdjones View Post
    Eh,,,all the new camaro needs is a little more power. How long do you think that's going to last??
    I don't think it'll be long before the new camaro's running around are going to be tinkered with and trapping 115 or better with just bolt on's. Wait till someone just sticks a camshaft in one.
    I'm sure the one I ran was still stock, but I think the longer they are around,,,just like everything else,,,you will start seeing some pretty quick ones. In which case they will be a handfull for even a head/cam full tilt 4th gen.
    There are already several challengers around that are modded, that aren't even a year old yet
    As far as all these 4th gens,,,there are probably only a handfull left on the planet that haven't had a wrench turned on em'

    Stock usually only lasts until after that temp tag is gone.

    Ya Texas Speed already has a section for the 2010 Camaro. I still think that there are those people out there who will hold off modding so as not to void the Manfac warr. But you are right, just like with the "new" Z06 with three months there were already a few running around with blowers. i guess i just expected more for a 400+HP car. I'm not saying they should have made the car super light, but atleast the same weight as the 4th gens

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    That's funny Texas Speed already has a section for them
    Ya it won't be long. Some headers and exhaust,,,camshaft and a good tune and these things will be flying.
    At that point I think people will rethink the "heavy weight means slow concept"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firebirdjones View Post
    That's funny Texas Speed already has a section for them
    Ya it won't be long. Some headers and exhaust,,,camshaft and a good tune and these things will be flying.
    At that point I think people will rethink the "heavy weight means slow concept"
    There are already modded 2010 SSs. The bolt ons are already out for the camaro and the ls3 has been out for a couple years so cams are already out for it.

    Just go to google and put in cammed 2010 camaro, you wil lsee videos of new camaros already cammed.

    For the record heavy is a disadvantage in almost every performance aspect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zinergy View Post
    There are already modded 2010 SSs. The bolt ons are already out for the camaro and the ls3 has been out for a couple years so cams are already out for it.

    Just go to google and put in cammed 2010 camaro, you wil lsee videos of new camaros already cammed.

    For the record heavy is a disadvantage in almost every performance aspect.
    Ya I figured it wouldn't be long. As for the heavy thing,,as far as straight line performance is concerned which is all I'm into anyway,,,,the simple addition of power overcomes the weight disadvantage

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firebirdjones View Post
    Ya I figured it wouldn't be long. As for the heavy thing,,as far as straight line performance is concerned which is all I'm into anyway,,,,the simple addition of power overcomes the weight disadvantage
    Yes but someone 1k pounds lighter than you with the same power is gonna walk all over you.

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    Last week I raced a 2010 Camaro and had no problem pulling on him. by the time I hit 100 he was close to 3 cars back. I have a 99 Z28 with 100+K miles and was running 93 octane. I only have headers, high flow cats, true dual exhaust, cold air intake, MAF, aluminum fly, MSD wires, NGK plugs, wheel and a Predator tune! I was disappointed in the new 2010...

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    I saw a bone stock make 2 dyno pulls. 320 hp and 322. 6 spd cars, I put my money on the bolt on 02.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anniversary30 View Post
    I saw a bone stock make 2 dyno pulls. 320 hp and 322. 6 spd cars, I put my money on the bolt on 02.
    the was a thread within the past couple weeks showing one already computer tuned. it made 335ish rwhp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anniversary30 View Post
    I saw a bone stock make 2 dyno pulls. 320 hp and 322. 6 spd cars, I put my money on the bolt on 02.
    Pretty low

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    well like I said, bone stock no tune , no nothing. Like it came from the dealer. I agree, I don't think people expected that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zinergy View Post
    Yes but someone 1k pounds lighter than you with the same power is gonna walk all over you.
    Eh, that doesn't impress me so much though. Easy and cheap to make a light car fast.

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