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11-05-2012, 10:22 AM #1
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Someone explain this?
1st I know it's illegal to transport flammable liquids in unapproved containers.
Police arrested a 47-year-old New York man accused of filling up 30 five-gallon Home Depot buckets with gasoline on Saturday night.
According to investigators, Yunus Latif, of Richmond Hill, collected money from his neighbors, bought gas at a Valero station almost 80 miles away in Orange and planned to bring it back to his neighborhood, where they had no power and gas.
Besides the dummy doing this; Let's say he did have gas cans, how is "legally purchasing" gas from 80 miles away and transporting it back to his house/neighborhood to use for generators/vehicles a crime?
This must be a NY/NJ thing, because down here it's common practice during an aftermath of a Hurricane.
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11-05-2012, 10:32 AM #2
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IDK man but common sense seems to be a lost art form in todays age. Everything today is so rule bound that if you step out of line even for a good cause, even when you are doing the right thing for your neighbors and family you can still get in trouble for it. Authority figures won't pull their nose out of the rule book long enough to hear or really listen to the reasoning.
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11-05-2012, 10:44 AM #3
Commonly known as red tape.
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11-05-2012, 11:28 AM #4
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I'd be concerned about static with plastic buckets like that!
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11-05-2012, 11:46 AM #5
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In the article it stated the buckets were swelling and yeah static electricity would be a major issue too.
I mean I get the way he transported it was wrong, but what pisses me off is that charge of Hording and that they poured the gas back into the stations tanks. Did he get refunded his money he paid? No = theft.
NJ has some F@#k up laws/regulations - for example - it's only state I know of where an owner of the car is not allow to pump their own gas , All gas stations must purchase fuel that is refined within the state, now Cristi suspended that one to get fuel moving for the time being.
I give it till this next storm coming up when the temps drop to freezing and you're going to see some massive house fires due to ppl trying to get heat. What will make it worse is Fire Dept will have issues getting to those that are burning because of clog streets but also might not have water in the hydrant systems.
Cold + low water + lack of food * homes on fire = riots that follow.
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11-05-2012, 11:56 AM #6
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Sounds like that place needs a good government cleaning. I'll add that to my list of places to never live.
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11-05-2012, 12:16 PM #7
If your carrying more than a certain amount it has to be transported in approved containers and a hazmat plackard needs to be affixed to the vehicle.
Most Cities/States have laws for proper storage and how much you can have on hand.
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11-05-2012, 12:25 PM #8
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Thank you captain rule book for showing us how these stupid ass rules and the people who enforce them leave multiple families without heat or fuel because NO acceptions can ever be made. We can all still think for ourselves and common sense should overrule in this case. The cops should have helped the man get that fuel back to the families with no heat in these cold months not arrested them for trying to help his neighbors while they deal with the results of this disaster.
Last edited by Zinergy; 11-05-2012 at 12:28 PM.
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11-05-2012, 12:48 PM #9
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Yes I already acknowledge that his method for transporting was wrong (While in the Army I had to deal with HAZMAT transportation and all the rules/regs for it). My gripe is how John so elegantly put it below:
Give him a ticket for illegal storage, have him put into proper containers, but arresting him and dumping the fuel back into the stations is wrong...
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11-05-2012, 01:43 PM #10
Just a FYI.
Oregon also has this BS minimal wage job employment scheme. Waiting in line for 10+ minutes for an available Gas Pumping Technician happened often. When I first got into Oregon I had originally tried pumping my own gas, when some slob comes out threatening to call the Police. I asked him if I made a seriously wrong turn from Michigan and entered New Jersey
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11-05-2012, 03:18 PM #11
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11-05-2012, 03:27 PM #12
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11-06-2012, 04:18 AM #13
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11-07-2012, 04:28 PM #14
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11-07-2012, 04:48 PM #15
We used to have full service out here in CA. It was a choice though. Cost a little more. Got the tires, fluids checked, the windows washed while your gas was being pumped for you..
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11-07-2012, 06:22 PM #16
Having someone else pump my gas for me is annoying. If I owned my SS and worked in NJ, I would not live there for the simple fact that I would not want a gas station attendant anywhere near my car.
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11-07-2012, 06:36 PM #17
1,001lbs of hazardous material needs hazardous material placards affixed on 4 sides of the vehicle. Along with a hazardous material manifest and the proper UN packaging and labeling.
He'd been over the weight limit and that's US DOT regulation.
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11-08-2012, 05:29 AM #18
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11-08-2012, 11:00 AM #19
Oh, you knew how much the gas cans weighed? I didn't.
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11-08-2012, 11:26 AM #20
It says in the article 4 gallons of gas were in each 5 gallon bucket. A gallon of gas weighs 6.073 pounds. He filled up 30. By my math that would be 4 X 6.073 lbs = 24.292 lbs per 5 gallon bucket.
30 X 24.292 = 728.76 lbs of gasoline.
Where are you two getting such astronomical numbers from?Last edited by 35th-ANV-SS; 11-08-2012 at 11:33 AM.
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