six stroke internal combustion engine.

**Modulistic** · 11-16-2008, 11:37 PM

1) intake of air and gas mix
2) compression of mix
3) power stroke
4) exhaust stroke (exhaust valve doesnt open, heat and pressure build up)
5) second power stroke as water is injected and turns to steam
6) second exhaust stroke (exhaust valve opens)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crower_six_stroke

it works. it uses less fuel, and runs without a radiator or cooling system. the cam runs at 1/3rd engine speed.

**BULLET_WS6** · 11-16-2008, 11:59 PM

seems kinda neat... but i see a lot of the problems not getting worked out properly... main concerns i see are engine wear from constant cooling, the whole warm up period, and difference in power produced from each power stroke causing possible odd surging/uneven acceleration
and a lot of extra technology going along with it...
interested in seeing how this moves along though

**mmciau** · 11-17-2008, 12:26 AM

Might be a benefit in a 'constant rev' engine like a generator which runs for long hours

Mike

**TempleU_WS6** · 11-17-2008, 07:01 AM

Interesting but seems complicated and not very practical.

**1MileCrash** · 11-17-2008, 10:18 AM

seen that before. i'm sure that they will continue to refine it and work on it...perhaps it will see some industrial applications.

**BULLET_WS6** · 11-17-2008, 11:04 AM

also my main concern is it is being developed way too late, right now people are focusing on alternative fuels, not hybrid ideas. we need to try and get rid of gasoline and fossil fuels completely.

**zero_proto** · 11-17-2008, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by BULLET_WS6

also my main concern is it is being developed way too late, right now people are focusing on alternative fuels, not hybrid ideas. we need to try and get rid of gasoline and fossil fuels completely.

well in new cars, i still want to drive my old muscle around

**TempleU_WS6** · 11-17-2008, 02:03 PM

Originally Posted by BULLET_WS6

also my main concern is it is being developed way too late, right now people are focusing on alternative fuels, not hybrid ideas. we need to try and get rid of gasoline and fossil fuels completely.

says the guy with a GTI.

**B34M3R** · 11-17-2008, 02:07 PM

Originally Posted by TempleU_WS6

says the guy with a GTI.

**zero_proto** · 11-17-2008, 02:11 PM

yeeeeaaaaahhhhhh......................

**1MileCrash** · 11-17-2008, 02:26 PM

Originally Posted by BULLET_WS6

also my main concern is it is being developed way too late, right now people are focusing on alternative fuels, not hybrid ideas. we need to try and get rid of gasoline and fossil fuels completely.

valid point

**BULLET_WS6** · 11-17-2008, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by TempleU_WS6

says the guy with a GTI.

money can be a bitch when you gotta pay for it all yourself man... but that has nothing to do with what i said

**TempleU_WS6** · 11-17-2008, 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by BULLET_WS6

money can be a bitch when you gotta pay for it all yourself man... but that has nothing to do with what i said

Just a joke, no hard feelings. I hear ya, money has been really tight for me too.

**BULLET_WS6** · 11-17-2008, 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by TempleU_WS6

Just a joke, no hard feelings. I hear ya, money has been really tight for me too.

oh i know its just a joke... i wish i still had my beast...but i only drive like once a week maybe and its like 2 miles... so i love this gti for that... usually go about 3 months on 3/4 tank

**TempleU_WS6** · 11-17-2008, 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by BULLET_WS6

oh i know its just a joke... i wish i still had my beast...but i only drive like once a week maybe and its like 2 miles... so i love this gti for that... usually go about 3 months on 3/4 tank

I can only imagine getting that kinda mileage. I only get to drive my car on the weekends anyway and with this weather, sometimes not at all.

**TransAm11973** · 11-17-2008, 03:49 PM

my main concern is that water freezes.........so if you injecting h20 it has to be in a liquid state in cold weather so whats in the water to keep it from freezing?? Can it run on a alcohol h20 mix? whats that do for the steam aspect?? sounds retarded if you ask me....good idea but fail

**BULLET_WS6** · 11-17-2008, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by TempleU_WS6

I can only imagine getting that kinda mileage. I only get to drive my car on the weekends anyway and with this weather, sometimes not at all.

yeah its nice.... i drive only city and its like 2 miles at a time... so you can imagine how constant starting of the engine and warming up would have an effect on gas mileage... and i get roughly 30mpg

**TempleU_WS6** · 11-17-2008, 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by BULLET_WS6

yeah its nice.... i drive only city and its like 2 miles at a time... so you can imagine how constant starting of the engine and warming up would have an effect on gas mileage... and i get roughly 30mpg

Good deal. You'll be back in an f-body soon enough.