Olds Cutlass Vert 1995

**swisscheese** · 01-12-2010, 10:23 PM

There is a Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme Convertible near me for sale. Its black, automatic, 3.4 DOHC-engine and has 75kmiles on it.
I like the look if this car but know nothing about it.
I thought that it would be a nice summer car.

Anyone has some pros and cons?

**SHines-IT** · 01-13-2010, 04:22 AM

Keep the miles off you F-Bodies, probably cheaper to insure as a DD. May be able to put the Z28's on Collector Car insurance, maybe?

**Bandit02** · 01-13-2010, 04:35 AM

Really cool looking cars, they are on craigslist all the time with bad motors or trannys. Someday i'll buy one just because of how cool they look. The 3.4 really wasn't that great of an engine.

**joestacey06** · 01-13-2010, 05:30 AM

Originally Posted by Bandit02

The 3.4 really wasn't that great of an engine.

I disagree. All the 60* V6's from GM were good motors. The 3.4 got a bad rap cause it is a pain to work on.

What are they asking for it?

**swisscheese** · 01-13-2010, 05:59 AM

$3900.-

but thats here in Switzerland!

**GTP231** · 01-13-2010, 06:34 AM

If you get it I'd buy or come up with something for rotating the engine forward you'll need it for the back plugs. 75K I'm suspicious about the timeing belt being replaced at 60K like it should have been. I'd also replace the tensioner and idlers while you're in there. Alternators suck ass to replace as well on that engine. It also still has the famous 60* V6 intake gasket replacement every couple of years. Also the 4T60E HD in that car isn't strong enough for the car in stock form. I went through about 4 in the time I had my 94. 3 of which were in the first year of ownership
Its a fun engine and I miss my 94 GTP with one

**hoosierSS02** · 01-13-2010, 11:28 AM

i used to have a 96 cutlass 2dr cpe, i LOVED that car. the engine (mine had the smaller 3.1) was surprisingly peppy and the car as a whole was extremely dependable. if the price is right (and to be honest, it should be pretty cheap), scoop that bad boy up and keep the miles off your f-bod.

**joestacey06** · 01-13-2010, 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by GTP231

It also still has the famous 60* V6 intake gasket replacement every couple of years. Also the 4T60E HD in that car isn't strong enough for the car in stock form. I went through about 4 in the time I had my 94. 3 of which were in the first year of ownership
Its a fun engine and I miss my 94 GTP with one

I've had 8 or so w-bodies in the last 15 years. Never had to do an intake gasket on any of them. I've done work on 10+ others for people I know and they've never needed intake gaskets. I've also never had to replace a tranny in any of them. Including my '90 Turbo Grand Prix that had almost 200,000 miles. The only thing they all needed was the dist. drive o-ring replaced. Regular maintenance works wonders.

**importhater81** · 01-13-2010, 04:20 PM

Originally Posted by joestacey06

I've had 8 or so w-bodies in the last 15 years. Never had to do an intake gasket on any of them. I've done work on 10+ others for people I know and they've never needed intake gaskets. I've also never had to replace a tranny in any of them. Including my '90 Turbo Grand Prix that had almost 200,000 miles. The only thing they all needed was the dist. drive o-ring replaced. Regular maintenance works wonders.

You have to remove the back head to do the dist o-ring.Not a fun job on a 3.4l dohc motor.Those intakes were notorious for intake vacuum leaks,suprised you never had to replace any of them.

**joestacey06** · 01-13-2010, 07:56 PM

Originally Posted by importhater81

You have to remove the back head to do the dist o-ring.Not a fun job on a 3.4l dohc motor.Those intakes were notorious for intake vacuum leaks,suprised you never had to replace any of them.

On the 3.4, if you can get your hands on it, lift the dist. drive up, spray it out with brake cleaner, then silicone or JB Weld it. No need to touch the head. All other 60* v6's only need the throttle body removed.

**pecha** · 01-13-2010, 08:25 PM

Originally Posted by swisscheese

$3900.-

but thats here in Switzerland!

pick up some vw polo for cheap as grocery getter

**Mike97dakota** · 01-13-2010, 08:32 PM

Set it on fire

**gd1996** · 01-13-2010, 09:24 PM

I had 2 friends with them, hardtops, but I always like them... I'd take one if I came accross one cheap.

**swisscheese** · 01-13-2010, 09:47 PM

Originally Posted by pecha

pick up some vw polo for cheap as grocery getter

never gonna buy something from the Volkswagen Company!

**GTP231** · 01-14-2010, 04:38 AM

Originally Posted by joestacey06

I've had 8 or so w-bodies in the last 15 years. Never had to do an intake gasket on any of them. I've done work on 10+ others for people I know and they've never needed intake gaskets. I've also never had to replace a tranny in any of them. Including my '90 Turbo Grand Prix that had almost 200,000 miles. The only thing they all needed was the dist. drive o-ring replaced. Regular maintenance works wonders.

Then you found the freaks. TGPs had the Caddy trans so yeah those hold up better than what the twin cam had. Oh yeah forgot about the distributor o ring to my list

I'm sure those cars had the intake gaskets done before you saw them.

**pecha** · 01-14-2010, 08:37 AM

Originally Posted by swisscheese

never gonna buy something from the Volkswagen Company!

coiuld you explain why not?

how about IQ or Yaris?

**GTP231** · 01-14-2010, 08:40 AM

Originally Posted by pecha

coiuld you explain why not?

how about IQ or Yaris?

Vw = POS

**SHines-IT** · 01-14-2010, 08:43 AM

Electrical problems, plus pain in the ass to work on.

**swisscheese** · 01-14-2010, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by pecha

coiuld you explain why not?

how about IQ or Yaris?

I just don't like this company.

If I don't buy american (preferably GM) I would buy Volvo or Saab as long as they exist.

we are a small country but we have still enough space to drive bigger cars than Yaris and IQ

so as long as we are allowed to drive bigger cars...

**joestacey06** · 01-14-2010, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by GTP231

Then you found the freaks. TGPs had the Caddy trans so yeah those hold up better than what the twin cam had. Oh yeah forgot about the distributor o ring to my list

I'm sure those cars had the intake gaskets done before you saw them.

TGP's did not have the caddy tranny. The had the same 440T4/4T60 except with hardened parts.

The 3.4's had the 4T60e.

As for the intakes, I doubt all the ones I've owned and all the ones I've worked on had the gaskets done.