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    Lesnar got smashed

    well, brock lesnar, the big hype, the top fighter in the world(as dana put it) got smashed in the first round by velasquez. great ufc card all around, hope shields doesnt look that bad again, and i think tito should maybe win a fight before he talks the shit he did to hammil.

    on another note, whats up wiht the beef between the undertaker and brock, ive been trying to find the back story on it but no luck.

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    Brock is big, strong, and is a good wrestler, but he does not have the all-around-skills, technique, and cardio endurance that Cain does. That's what separates good fighters.

    The fight was very similar to when Shane Carwin fought him. Carwin could have easily defeated Brock Lesnar if he was smart with his punches and not exhausting himself.

    Cain paced the fight and looked for his shots, and in the end stomped Brock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superluminal View Post
    Brock is big, strong, and is a good wrestler, but he does not have the all-around-skills, technique, and cardio endurance that Cain does. That's what separates good fighters.

    The fight was very similar to when Shane Carwin fought him. Carwin could have easily defeated Brock Lesnar if he was smart with his punches and not exhausting himself.

    Cain paced the fight and looked for his shots, and in the end stomped Brock.
    brock needs to work on his chin somehow lol ....
    Carwin win ko cane... that will be the next fight after carwin destroys fat country or big country lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by '02somz28 View Post
    brock needs to work on his chin somehow lol ....
    Carwin win ko cane... that will be the next fight after carwin destroys fat country or big country lol
    next fight for cain is junior dos santos, but no, carwin will not beat cain, cain is a faster more cardio version of carwin.

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    the only thing brock needs to do is work on his boxing game.
    remember brock is still an infant in the world of MMA, most of his fights have been against contenders with tons more experience. This loss and his almost loss to carwin will be a great learning experience. Lesnar will come back much improved.

    In regards to carwin, carwin did not get gassed or run out of cardio against lesnar, he suffered from Lactic Acidosis. Being an explosive fighter like that, his diet/supplement routine was not balanced properly. Carwins camp claims this has been corrected. We will find out Jan 1st.

    In regards to Cain. His title holding racist ass will be short lived.


    remember the love hate of MMA, is fighters can have an off night or lose/win because of the punchers chance.

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    Lesnar looked like someone took a knife to his face.

    They would have stopped the fight for that cut if he hadn't received the beatdown.

    And at the end of the Tito/Hammel fight, Hammel looked like he had just came in from a jog, Tito looked like he had just came in from kissing a weedeater.

    And the blood! Hammel was covered with Tito's blood and all I could think was "Dude! His wife is a PORN STAR! Wash real quick!"

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    Can't put muscle on your face... and thats were my punchs are going.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ibanez7 View Post
    the only thing brock needs to do is work on his boxing game.
    remember brock is still an infant in the world of MMA, most of his fights have been against contenders with tons more experience. This loss and his almost loss to carwin will be a great learning experience. Lesnar will come back much improved.

    In regards to carwin, carwin did not get gassed or run out of cardio against lesnar, he suffered from Lactic Acidosis. Being an explosive fighter like that, his diet/supplement routine was not balanced properly. Carwins camp claims this has been corrected. We will find out Jan 1st.

    In regards to Cain. His title holding racist ass will be short lived.


    remember the love hate of MMA, is fighters can have an off night or lose/win because of the punchers chance.
    racist? because he reps his heritage hes racist? anyway, people always make excuses why they gas out, we will see in his next fight (carwin) but i still think he would gas again.

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    I think the UFC wanted Lesnar to lose. Hell Cain was getting hyped in the commercials over Brock. The UFC wanted to tap into that Mexican market. What better way then to have a mexican champ. Now look at your next fight... 2 mexicans fighting each other. Coincidence .... You tell me?

    Now Lesnar was defending himself.... not as well as he possibly could but he took it worse from Carwin and he still recovered. I am willing to bet the head honchos at the ufc informed the ref that if Lesnar is in any trouble you stop that fight.

    Brock will be back, Better for sure. We already know he don't like to lose.

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    wow, did you not watch the fight, lesnar was done, laying there cowering with your hands on your face while you get punched over and over is not intelegently (spelling) defending yourself. lesnar got beat fair and square. will he be back, of course he will, but until he improves greatly in his standup, he will not hold the title against anyone like cain.

    and ya, calling the month brocktober was hyping cain up. brock has been overhyped for about a year now. they finally got someone worth a damn from the division to fight him, and see what happened? and dos santos is brazilian not mexican but nice try

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    Quote Originally Posted by ice97ta View Post
    next fight for cain is junior dos santos, but no, carwin will not beat cain, cain is a faster more cardio version of carwin.
    hell if you lived around here i would bet you $ lol

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    I think Carwin will beat Cain when they meet.......

    Brock got beat, fair and square - I used to think there wasn't much competition at heavy weight, but my opinion has changed a lot.

    Carwin, Lesnar, Cain - and there's a few others that make this a fun class again IMHO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ice97ta View Post
    racist? because he reps his heritage hes racist? anyway, people always make excuses why they gas out, we will see in his next fight (carwin) but i still think he would gas again.
    Cain is racist... oh wait black and mexicans cant be racist, only whites can.

    -brown pride tattoo on his chest.....
    if a white fighter had a white pride tattoo, he would be deemed racist and part of the KKK...

    -cain was born in the USA, he is a natural born american. Act like it...
    he goes to schools to help out poverty mexicans, yet doesnt stop by poor white schools...


    carwin was lactic acidosis... its actually very common among top athletes. Carwin went to the hospital after the fight to be treated.

    If he did not have a lactic acid attack, he would have beat brock. Carwin will beat Cain.

    He is the baddest man in UFC HW... At one time it was randy couture, but the size differences in the wide weight class of hw division hurts that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FasstChevys View Post
    I think Carwin will beat Cain when they meet.......

    Brock got beat, fair and square - I used to think there was much competition at heavy weight, but my opinion has changed a lot.

    Carwin, Lesnar, Cain - and there's a few others that make this a fun class again IMHO.


    what makes the HW class so tough to fight in and have quality contenders is the weight spectrum... Every weight class is seperated by 15lbs, except heavy weight which goes from 220-265.. A 45lb difference.

    UFC needs a light heavy weight 205-225, heavy weight 225-245, and ultra heavy weight 245-270..


    a 220lb figther that struggles to break up to 220, against a guy that cuts weight to be 265 is, unfair based off other weight classes

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    Quote Originally Posted by ibanez7 View Post
    Cain is racist... oh wait black and mexicans cant be racist, only whites can.

    -brown pride tattoo on his chest.....
    if a white fighter had a white pride tattoo, he would be deemed racist and part of the KKK...

    -cain was born in the USA, he is a natural born american. Act like it...
    he goes to schools to help out poverty mexicans, yet doesnt stop by poor white schools...


    carwin was lactic acidosis... its actually very common among top athletes. Carwin went to the hospital after the fight to be treated.

    If he did not have a lactic acid attack, he would have beat brock. Carwin will beat Cain.

    He is the baddest man in UFC HW... At one time it was randy couture, but the size differences in the wide weight class of hw division hurts that.
    you got a link for them saying anything about that, i cant find anything on it. and just because you have a tat, doesnt mean yoru racist. i have no problems with him going to mexican schools and helping, why? because that is his heritage. to me, you sound more racist than he would be due to the dumb ass comments your making about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ice97ta View Post
    you got a link for them saying anything about that, i cant find anything on it. and just because you have a tat, doesnt mean yoru racist. i have no problems with him going to mexican schools and helping, why? because that is his heritage. to me, you sound more racist than he would be due to the dumb ass comments your making about it.
    seriously, google made the internet easy too use...
    google search Shane Carwin Lactic Acidosis, its all over the internet and MMA news sites. Its not difficult!!! If your a true MMA fan or train mma, you would have heard about this...


    your missing the point. If a white person had "white pride" as a tattoo and only visited white poverty schools, that person would be deemed racist, part of the KKK, a white supremecist, nazi, neo nazi, white devil.. etc... Yet its ok for Cain... BS, thats discrimation.


    Me, racist? Nah... everyone should own their own black or brown person!!!

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    They stop the fight when they go limp or allow open shots to the head. If your covering your head you are still defending yourself. You might not stop every shot but you are still defending yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by knightryda01 View Post
    They stop the fight when they go limp or allow open shots to the head. If your covering your head you are still defending yourself. You might not stop every shot but you are still defending yourself.
    no, they stop when your not intelegently defending yourself. laying there not trying to get away or out of it getting beat on, is putting the fighter in jepordy, hence the stop.

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    on another note, its gonna be a while before we see anything from carwin again, hes out from a injury

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