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    fords new 5.0L

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    think this will actually happen? 400hp and 400 ft\lbs of torque out of a DOHC 5.0L?

    they have been hard pressed to achieve around 68hp\L before out of their DOHC mod engines, and now they're stepping up to 80? if they can pull it off, it's a HUGE step up in engine development for ford. or when it comes to actual production will it be putting out around 350 hp.
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    It's possible but that will probably end up being at the crank. I would imagine they would have to throw in some pretty noticeable cams for that power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by c5z28 View Post
    It's possible but that will probably end up being at the crank. I would imagine they would have to throw in some pretty noticeable cams for that power.
    that's what i'm wondering--- will it be able to meet emissions in full production trim and still make 400\400?

    improbable but not impossible i guess.

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    sort of looks like another engine i know

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    Just because they havent in the past doesnt mean it wasnt possible. They did an underrated 385 out of the 5.4 doch engine in the 00 cobra R and that engine was built to handle more. Look up the "cammer" engine that they did, thats basically what this motor is. That engine i think made around 400 something. So to answer is it possible? If i'm not mistaken they already have. Keep in mind they can spin that fucker high with a 4valve head.

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    I'd love to see a 5.0 badge on the fender of a new mustang

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    Btw, autoblog reported today a ford exec confirmed the 5.0 with "400 hp and nearly 400 ft. lbs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by 310stanger View Post
    Just because they havent in the past doesnt mean it wasnt possible. They did an underrated 385 out of the 5.4 doch engine in the 00 cobra R and that engine was built to handle more. Look up the "cammer" engine that they did, thats basically what this motor is. That engine i think made around 400 something.
    I believe that was the FR500 Mustang. 415hp and 365tq way back in 2000.

    HERE is the C&D test of the car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeVeReDiStOrTiOn View Post
    The 2010 stang owners are going to be pissed..
    It's their own fault, most knew this was coming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeVeReDiStOrTiOn View Post
    The 2010 stang owners are going to be pissed..
    Oh man you got that fucking right. I'd be freakin furious

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    Quote Originally Posted by big hammer View Post
    www.leftlanenews.com/ford-coyote-v8.html

    think this will actually happen? 400hp and 400 ft\lbs of torque out of a DOHC 5.0L?

    they have been hard pressed to achieve around 68hp\L before out of their DOHC mod engines, and now they're stepping up to 80? if they can pull it off, it's a HUGE step up in engine development for ford. or when it comes to actual production will it be putting out around 350 hp.
    400 will be the flywheel numbers. but that is a more than doable thing in the 5.0. yes i do believe the 4.6s have a real hard time compared to us mod for mod but we all know what a little bit more displacement can do. take our 346 ls1 that puts a solid 350hp down at the fly vs the 364 ls2 that puts 400hp. look at the little bit of difference in the c.i.'s. i think ford can do it also if they put enough time and effort into it. and just for the record i am no fan of ford but i dont hate on everything. that is just my realistic opinion.

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    The biggest shortcoming of the ford modulars had been the small bore size of 3.55 whereas the Ford 5.0/302, most chevy sbc's, lsx motors etc all had 4.00 in bores or bigger. The reason ford has been so limited in bore size is because of the phsyical dimensions of the engine with an OHC head design. You guys ever see how physically large a ford 4.6/5.4 is out of a car? They are monsters for engines that have only 281 cubes of displacement. One of the greatest benefits of an OHV/pushrod design is packaging in addition to the torque and simplicity.

    Displacement is one of the easiest ways to increase power of any engine.

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    They are alot of mustangs with "400hp" and they all run 13's...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 00z28bubba View Post
    400 will be the flywheel numbers. but that is a more than doable thing in the 5.0. yes i do believe the 4.6s have a real hard time compared to us mod for mod but we all know what a little bit more displacement can do. take our 346 ls1 that puts a solid 350hp down at the fly vs the 364 ls2 that puts 400hp. look at the little bit of difference in the c.i.'s. i think ford can do it also if they put enough time and effort into it. and just for the record i am no fan of ford but i dont hate on everything. that is just my realistic opinion.
    the most they could pull off on a DOHC 4.6 was around 68hp\liter. if they make a 400hp 5.0 it will be around 80hp\liter--- not only is that a huge step up for ford, it's a huge step for any stock n\a v8.

    is it true? time will tell. maybe it will be severly overrated like 99 cobras.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 310stanger View Post
    The biggest shortcoming of the ford modulars had been the small bore size of 3.55 whereas the Ford 5.0/302, most chevy sbc's, lsx motors etc all had 4.00 in bores or bigger. The reason ford has been so limited in bore size is because of the phsyical dimensions of the engine with an OHC head design. You guys ever see how physically large a ford 4.6/5.4 is out of a car? They are monsters for engines that have only 281 cubes of displacement. One of the greatest benefits of an OHV/pushrod design is packaging in addition to the torque and simplicity.

    Displacement is one of the easiest ways to increase power of any engine.
    you ever see a DOHC 4.6? them things is HUGE! physically bigger than my 454 i tell ya

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    Quote Originally Posted by 00z28bubba View Post
    400 will be the flywheel numbers. but that is a more than doable thing in the 5.0. yes i do believe the 4.6s have a real hard time compared to us mod for mod but we all know what a little bit more displacement can do. take our 346 ls1 that puts a solid 350hp down at the fly vs the 364 ls2 that puts 400hp. look at the little bit of difference in the c.i.'s. i think ford can do it also if they put enough time and effort into it. and just for the record i am no fan of ford but i dont hate on everything. that is just my realistic opinion.
    Agreed
    There's no replacement for displacement
    a nice free flowing set of heads help too

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