Bye Bye Muscle Cars

**96z28** · 02-22-2009, 08:06 PM

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bus...uscle.cars.cnn

**korndawg** · 02-22-2009, 08:11 PM

They'll be back again someday, just in a different form. Turbo charged, 200 HP Chevy Volt!!! Lol.
Be thankful that we already have our's in our garages. I can't afford a new Vette/Camaro/Mustang anyways

**bowtieguy02SS** · 02-22-2009, 08:12 PM

funkin obama

**KahanaReef** · 02-22-2009, 08:15 PM

Well, the Saturn's and the Hummers can go. And, with any luck... things will get rolling again for our favorite American past time.

**kickflippin1** · 02-22-2009, 08:18 PM

I thought that video was gonna be about how the government is banning all previously built and owned muscle cars from driving on the roads. Kinda like how they banned the sale of youth motorcycles 'cuz of lead in the paint or frame or whatever.

That 30th T/A and that '79 T/A were real nice, though.

**FORD RECOVERY EXPERT** · 02-22-2009, 08:19 PM

**third_shift|studios** · 02-22-2009, 08:24 PM

Everybody loves a muscle car. They admit to themselves when they see 'em. Classic, or modern, Mopar or GM. The muscle car will NEVER die.

**1MileCrash** · 02-22-2009, 09:14 PM

well that one fella there was dead on. detroit got involved way too deep in the truck segment and then when the bottom started falling out of it they thought they could save it by putting more trucks out there instead of more cars and less trucks. they could...and they refused to adapt. it's their own fault that they are screwed.

**TempleU_WS6** · 02-22-2009, 09:22 PM

We'll the muscle car is pretty much fading out as far as production but muscle cars will never be like they were in the late 60s and throughout the 70s. People will always love and own those cars so they themselves will never die.

Our 4th gens are the same way but they just never seem to get the same respect from the regular crowd. People in the know will always have respect for them and we always will so thats all that matters.

Oh and dont forget the people who will find out due to a cam and cutouts

**bowtieguy02SS** · 02-22-2009, 09:26 PM

Originally Posted by TempleU_WS6

We'll the muscle car is pretty much fading out as far as production but muscle cars will never be like they were in the late 60s and throughout the 70s. People will always love and own those cars so they themselves will never die.

Our 4th gens are the same way but they just never seem to get the same respect from the regular crowd. People in the know will always have respect for them and we always will so thats all that matters.

Oh and dont forget the people who will find out due to a cam and cutouts

+1. just look at the mid 70's to early 80's muscle cars were far and few when it came to production, they also had the emissions crunch during that time. Our cars will never die, may just have a brief absence, but they will return once again.

**MoMo The Ecotec** · 02-22-2009, 10:11 PM

What a sad sad time we live in

**El Toro Loco** · 02-22-2009, 10:21 PM

that really sucks, no more peformance vehicles from gm.... what a sad time

**2000LS1Bird** · 02-22-2009, 10:34 PM

Damn, I just posted this up in the WS6 forum because I liked how they bragged about the Trans Am (2nd Gen specifically, although that really wasn't a "muscle" car) throughout the report.

GM did sell quite a few of those 2nd Gen TA's and Camaros. There just wasn't any real foreign competition back then.

**mark21742** · 02-22-2009, 10:53 PM

Originally Posted by bowtieguy02SS

+1. just look at the mid 70's to early 80's muscle cars were far and few when it came to production, they also had the emissions crunch during that time. Our cars will never die, may just have a brief absence, but they will return once again.

one good way to look at it is look what we got out of the last muscle car fadeout.....the 87 grand national and after a few years BAM more and more muscle cars started coming back out with more power and better gas mileage.......this might actually be a good thing and after a few years of green econo cars maybe we can have an even stronger production muscle car......i try to look on the bright side

**third_shift|studios** · 02-23-2009, 05:51 AM

Originally Posted by mark21742

one good way to look at it is look what we got out of the last muscle car fadeout.....the 87 grand national and after a few years BAM more and more muscle cars started coming back out with more power and better gas mileage.......this might actually be a good thing and after a few years of green econo cars maybe we can have an even stronger production muscle car......i try to look on the bright side

I agree man. As i like to say "Eventually, the screw will come out." Meaning, no matter what, after enough time put into it, we'll get over that hurdle and be back on track.

**FasstChevys** · 02-23-2009, 05:55 AM

Originally Posted by 2000LS1Bird

Damn, I just posted this up in the WS6 forum because I liked how they bragged about the Trans Am (2nd Gen specifically, although that really wasn't a "muscle" car) throughout the report.

So, I guess the SD455 TA's weren't muscle cars?

**third_shift|studios** · 02-23-2009, 05:56 AM

Originally Posted by FasstChevys

So, I guess the SD455 TA's weren't muscle cars?

F-body's are "pony cars" same as the mustang-based on the Unibody design ( i think, someone can shed more light). Muscle car is the generic grouping of the entire class though.

**FasstChevys** · 02-23-2009, 06:06 AM

Originally Posted by third_shift|studios

F-body's are "pony cars" same as the mustang-based on the Unibody design ( i think, someone can shed more light).

1st Gen Camaro's & Firebirds are F-body's, and I guess I've never heard those called a pony car.

Who here would call a '69 RS/SS 396 Camaro a pony car? I certainly wouldn't - I'd call it a muscle car.

Originally Posted by third_shift|studios

Muscle car is the generic grouping of the entire class though.

I'd go along with that.

**86 IROC-Z** · 02-23-2009, 06:08 AM

Originally Posted by third_shift|studios

F-body's are "pony cars" same as the mustang-based on the Unibody design ( i think, someone can shed more light). Muscle car is the generic grouping of the entire class though.

This.

The term "Muscle car" does not include sports cars (Corvette) or pony cars (F-bodies, mustangs, etc), however the name is commonly misused to refer to any American performance-oriented front-engine RWD car.

inb4 bunched panties

**third_shift|studios** · 02-23-2009, 06:21 AM

Originally Posted by FasstChevys

1st Gen Camaro's & Firebirds are F-body's, and I guess I've never heard those called a pony car.

Who here would call a '69 RS/SS 396 Camaro a pony car? I certainly wouldn't - I'd call it a muscle car.

I'd go along with that.

Originally Posted by 86 IROC-Z

This.

The term "Muscle car" does not include sports cars (Corvette) or pony cars (F-bodies, mustangs, etc), however the name is commonly misused to refer to any American performance-oriented front-engine RWD car.

inb4 bunched panties

we're getting

and honestly the "pony car" term has probably been long dead since "real muscle cars" died by the mid 70's. The pony car filled the void and reputation of "muscle"