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    Bond 23 on indefinite hold..

    wanted to post this for all the fellow bond fans...im kinda pissed off about this..

    http://movies.yahoo.com/news/movies....uction-reuters

    LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - The next James Bond movie will be delayed indefinitely due to "uncertainty" from the still unfinished auction of MGM, the movie studio behind the film series, producers said on Monday.

    The so far untitled movie, which will be the 23rd in the series about the British spy, had been due for release in 2011 or 2012.

    James Bond is one of MGM's most lucrative franchises.

    But Michael Wilson and Barbara Broccoli, the producers of James Bond, said in a joint statement, "Due to the continuing uncertainty surrounding the future of MGM and the failure to close a sale of the studio, we have suspended development on BOND 23 indefinitely."

    The two producers added that they do not know when development of the film will resume and when it will be released in theaters.

    A representative for MGM could not be reached for comment.

    MGM last year began exploring a potential sale of itself, and sources said in March the company received a $1.5 billion bid from Time Warner Inc.

    It was the highest bid received for MGM, but still below the $2 billion or more that the storied Hollywood studio had initially hoped to receive, and it could still file for bankruptcy, sources have said.

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    Unsure about the next Bond film.

    Daniel Craig makes a good Bond and Casino Royale was a great flick.

    It lifted my hopes for Quantum Of Solace, which unfortunately turned out to be a steaming load.

    Maybe the next one will revive the magic...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CJREX View Post
    Unsure about the next Bond film.

    Daniel Craig makes a good Bond and Casino Royale was a great flick.

    It lifted my hopes for Quantum Of Solace, which unfortunately turned out to be a steaming load.

    Maybe the next one will revive the magic...
    Sucks to hear its on hold.

    I agree about Daniel Craig being a good Bond, I actually think he is a very good Bond. Casino Royale was fantastic, but Solace was weak like you said.

    Hopefully they get it back to production soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CJREX View Post

    Daniel Craig makes a good Bond
    Quote Originally Posted by Y2KPewterSS View Post
    I agree about Daniel Craig being a good Bond, I actually think he is a very good Bond.
    These.

    I like him because since he's been the character it's moved away from the "invincible" bond and towards a more "I still bleed, make mistakes, and have emotions just like every other human, but that doesn't mean I can't be a badass at the same time" bond.

    A good example is the free running scene at the beginning of Casino Royale:

    A Brosnan Bond would have landed on the crane feet first while cracking a smug joke.

    The Craig Bond landed chest first and almost fell to his death. Much more believable, and it makes for a much more entertaining experience when it could seem like the hero could actually perish.
    Last edited by 86 IROC-Z; 04-20-2010 at 10:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 86 IROC-Z View Post
    A good example is the free running scene at the beginning of Casino Royale:

    A Brosnan Bond would have landed on the crane feet first while cracking a smug joke.

    The Craig Bond landed chest first and almost fell to his death. Much more believable, and it makes for a much more entertaining experience when it could seem like the hero could actually perish.


    There was nothing believable about that entire scene. It was cool to watch, but not the least bit convincing.



    As for the delay on Bond 23.... good. Maybe this will give them time to actually come up with a script that doesnt suck (Quantum)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5.0THIS View Post
    There was nothing believable about that entire scene. It was cool to watch, but not the least bit convincing.



    As for the delay on Bond 23.... good. Maybe this will give them time to actually come up with a script that doesnt suck (Quantum)
    In a comparative sense of course.

    I know that secret agents in real life don't do parkour across construction sites, and conversely, I also know that a secret agent in a movie doing 2 hours worth of paperwork wouldn't be entertaining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 86 IROC-Z View Post
    In a comparative sense of course.

    I know that secret agents in real life don't do parkour across construction sites, and conversely, I also know that a secret agent in a movie doing 2 hours worth of paperwork wouldn't be entertaining.


    I was referring to the physical feats being performed, and the unlikelyhood that a person (outside of maybe an olympic gymnast) could actually perform them in the real world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 86 IROC-Z View Post
    These.

    I like him because since he's been the character it's moved away from the "invincible" bond and towards a more "I still bleed, make mistakes, and have emotions just like every other human, but that doesn't mean I can't be a badass at the same time" bond.

    A good example is the free running scene at the beginning of Casino Royale:

    A Brosnan Bond would have landed on the crane feet first while cracking a smug joke.

    The Craig Bond landed chest first and almost fell to his death. Much more believable, and it makes for a much more entertaining experience when it could seem like the hero could actually perish.
    This^
    But at the same time, I think brosnan was the more refined, matured bond. I mean we're looking at two different stages of bond. A fresh secret agent vs a vetran. But I like that craig wants to do a better bond. At first From what I read, he took on the character kind of half heartedly, but now he's more entheusiastic about it. It just really sucks about mgm, because you dont want the wrong company getting ahold of the franchise and risk ruining it because they want to change things about it. I'd like to see mgm stand on it's own, n not be owned by warner.

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    You guys have to keep in mind what the Bond character is. Up until Craig, Bond was a different character, but that's what he always was. I happen to like the Bond that Brosnan played, as well as Connery and Roger Moore. Timothy Dalton and George Lazenby were fairly forgettable though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5.0THIS View Post
    You guys have to keep in mind what the Bond character is. Up until Craig, Bond was a different character, but that's what he always was. I happen to like the Bond that Brosnan played, as well as Connery and Roger Moore. Timothy Dalton and George Lazenby were fairly forgettable though.
    This....

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    It seems it would be smarter financially to finish a movie that in the past has generated revenue rather than put it on hold, sort of like what gm did to the f-body.

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    Correct you are. The Craig Bond has been modeled to compete better with Jason Bourne.

    Quote Originally Posted by 5.0THIS View Post
    You guys have to keep in mind what the Bond character is. Up until Craig, Bond was a different character, but that's what he always was. I happen to like the Bond that Brosnan played, as well as Connery and Roger Moore. Timothy Dalton and George Lazenby were fairly forgettable though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5.0THIS View Post
    You guys have to keep in mind what the Bond character is. Up until Craig, Bond was a different character, but that's what he always was. I happen to like the Bond that Brosnan played, as well as Connery and Roger Moore. Timothy Dalton and George Lazenby were fairly forgettable though.
    Quote Originally Posted by SiggyZ View Post
    Correct you are. The Craig Bond has been modeled to compete better with Jason Bourne.
    I agree with both of you that the character has changed; the Bourne trilogy is a good comparison (Coincidentally also appens to be one of my favorite movie series).

    Perhaps the reason I'm more open to the change is that I'm that much younger and only really experienced the tail-end of the Brosnan period of Bond films, and all the ones prior to that were already movies of yesteryear to me, and weren't as ingrained as much as the idea of who the character was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5.0THIS View Post
    You guys have to keep in mind what the Bond character is. Up until Craig, Bond was a different character, but that's what he always was. I happen to like the Bond that Brosnan played, as well as Connery and Roger Moore. Timothy Dalton and George Lazenby were fairly forgettable though.
    This^^ and this VV

    it's moved away from the "invincible" bond and towards a more "I still bleed, make mistakes, and have emotions just like every other human, but that doesn't mean I can't be a badass at the same time" bond.

    A good example is the free running scene at the beginning of Casino Royale:

    A Brosnan Bond would have landed on the crane feet first while cracking a smug joke.

    The Craig Bond landed chest first and almost fell to his death. Much more believable, and it makes for a much more entertaining experience when it could seem like the hero could actually perish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SiggyZ View Post
    Correct you are. The Craig Bond has been modeled to compete better with Jason Bourne.


    Bond to me has always been the slick, smooth, womanizing, seemingly invincible, sometimes reckless character. That's the way it always has been though up until the Daniel Craig era. In all honesty the scripts have just been lacking lately, and they even were at the end of the Brosnan era (which isnt his fault, more just the studios).

    Bond movies have always been about an adventure, with all kinds of crazy shit happening all the time. Car chases, foot chases, all over the world. Casino Royale was good, but did lack a bit in nonstop excitement. Quantum of Solace was just shit. The end of the movie came, and you're like wtf, that's it? So that was the climax to the movie? And then you go back and think about how little substance there was to the story.

    For reference, here are some of my favorite Bond movies: Moonraker, Thunderball, For Your Eyes Only, The Spy Who Loved Me, Live and Let Die, Goldeneye, etc etc. I'm sure I am forgetting a couple.

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    "One of MGM's most lucrative franchises"?

    Bond will be back. Guess they just have to get their financial situation straightened out first.

    I hope its not too long though, and that they don't lose Craig.

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