Any of you guys know fox body stangs?

**EnjoiJoe** · 08-06-2009, 12:05 PM

My neighbor who just moved in has an 87 Gt with CAI, Heads, Headers, Mild cam and exhaust. He says he kills modded ls1s all the time and I told him bs he could not even beat a stock ls1. So basically I was wondering if a stock ls1could take him?

P.S he says he estimates 340hp at the wheels with those mods

**wheeliE-maxx** · 08-06-2009, 12:07 PM

If he's really making 340 to the wheels you'll lose with a stocker

**EnjoiJoe** · 08-06-2009, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by wheeliE-maxx

If he's really making 340 to the wheels you'll lose with a stocker

Like I said he estimated it he has never put the car on a dyno.

**Spaz** · 08-06-2009, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by wheeliE-maxx

If he's really making 340 to the wheels you'll lose with a stocker

depends on the driver and traction...

**EnjoiJoe** · 08-06-2009, 12:17 PM

I just texted him to see how much hp his car makes he said it was 340 at the flywheel not rear wheels my bad.

**ztrouble** · 08-06-2009, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by EnjoiJoe

I just texted him to see how much hp his car makes he said it was 340 at the flywheel not rear wheels my bad.

with the proper suspension setup a stock motor, transmission, gear with a good driver can go into the 12's

possible yes, probable no

**EnjoiJoe** · 08-06-2009, 12:35 PM

We are gonna go to the track later today so I will post up the results he thinks he will run around 12.9-13.5 we will see

**TransAm11973** · 08-06-2009, 12:58 PM

87 Gt with CAI, Heads, Headers, Mild cam and exhaust = No to 340hp at the wheels...he is full of shit

**The Project** · 08-06-2009, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by TransAm11973

87 Gt with CAI, Heads, Headers, Mild cam and exhaust = No to 340hp at the wheels...he is full of shit

Gotta agree.......

**wheeliE-maxx** · 08-06-2009, 03:23 PM

He corrected it to "at the crank" but still... Motor wise, you stock versus him are similar, but the fox is going to be lighter

**foxman92** · 08-06-2009, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by wheeliE-maxx

He corrected it to "at the crank" but still... Motor wise, you stock versus him are similar, but the fox is going to be lighter

x2, is it a notchback or hatchback? GT or LX? this all will make a difference in weight.. i can see him having 340 at the flywheel with aftermarket heads, and exhaust, cai, and im sure he isnt telling you everything.. good luck..

**TransAm11973** · 08-06-2009, 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by wheeliE-maxx

He corrected it to "at the crank" but still... Motor wise, you stock versus him are similar, but the fox is going to be lighter

either way......its not happening. 115hp plus hp from stock on that 5.0 with just h/c and exhaust...nope

**02transamce** · 08-06-2009, 04:22 PM

depends on the head/cam combo,i had a 87 lx 5.0 automatic that could only muster a 15.10 in the quarter,but my 92 gt (5-speed)ran 14.20 with 3.55 gears,cai,off road h-pipe and flowmasters.and btw the first ls1 t/a i ran across in late '97 ripped my gt a new one.

**TransAm11973** · 08-06-2009, 04:27 PM

am i correct though at saying that motor stock was only 225hp and was actually a 4.9 liter?

**TransAm11973** · 08-06-2009, 04:28 PM

i guess its possibly but i am still saying 340 aint happening with out doing more to it like stroking it, bore, full intake manifold, maf sensors, fuel injectors etc

**wheeliE-maxx** · 08-06-2009, 04:32 PM

h/c and boltons can make all the difference in the world if the right parts are picked. My motor makes 270 GROSS horsepower and vortecs with a voodoo 268 cam and bolt ons will make about 400. Why can't a 5.0 make 340? If this guy is a teenager though, he's likely full of shit though.

**02transamce** · 08-06-2009, 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by TransAm11973

am i correct though at saying that motor stock was only 225hp and was actually a 4.9 liter?

yes and yes.not to mention the 87-88 5.0s had speed-density fuel injection,which would not tolerate a cam change,they had to be changed to the later mass-air set up.

**preston1980** · 08-06-2009, 05:05 PM

I have seen some fast 5.0 87 to 92 mustangs. They are very light (especially the notchbacks). If they have full heads and cam and full exhaust and some 3.73 gears and traction, I would say they would beat a LS1.

I have had 2 fox bodys and 1 was an auto, Ill I can say is the auto was stock and got beat by almost everything, the 5 speed had full bolt ons (headers, no cats, h-pipe, flowmasters, 3.73s CAI, bigger injectors, etc) and I could beat or hang with most LT1s. I never raced any LS1s. But if it had heads and a cam, I could see it beating LS1s

**02transamce** · 08-06-2009, 05:11 PM

i ran across a old street racing friend of mine a couple of weeks ago,he has a 93 gt with a vortech blower,headers,h-pipe,magnaflows,cobra intake,and 3.55 gears.we didn't race because he had his 4-year old son with him,but i really would like to run him,should be a good run.i think i'll get him off the line (he has stock size tires 245-50r16)so i think he'll either bog it or spin.

**preston1980** · 08-06-2009, 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by 02transamce

i ran across a old street racing friend of mine a couple of weeks ago,he has a 93 gt with a vortech blower,headers,h-pipe,magnaflows,cobra intake,and 3.55 gears.we didn't race because he had his 4-year old son with him,but i really would like to run him,should be a good run.i think i'll get him off the line (he has stock size tires 245-50r16)so i think he'll either bog it or spin.

What the hell was fords problem in 93, I remeber they de tuned the 5.0s to 205 hp and droped to 275 torque. A friend of mine had a 93 Cobra that would get beat by a stock 88 Gt all the time. He was pissed, but his Cobra was way more rare, so that was what he always talked about.