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    Amsoil!?!?!?!!

    Ok....I wanna know what is the big deal with AMSOIL? I knwo their a sponsor now....but i wanna know why their better than the rest?

    Im pretty sure this is the product sarge was raving about b4 though lol

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    I've always maintained Amsoil was the top shelf of boutique oils.....Royal Purple/Red Line etc. Top notch company from top to bottom. The only company that flat out tells people which of its oils are GroupIV and which are GroupIII. Over the counter oils I maintain PP is the best OTC oil available. Amsoil is the best higher end oil. Yup they are a sponsor now and good for us......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarge View Post
    I've always maintained Amsoil was the top shelf of boutique oils.....Royal Purple/Red Line etc. Top notch company from top to bottom. The only company that flat out tells people which of its oils are GroupIV and which are GroupIII. Over the counter oils I maintain PP is the best OTC oil available. Amsoil is the best higher end oil. Yup they are a sponsor now and good for us......
    what is the difference between group 3 and group 4?

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    Quote Originally Posted by grouch0jr View Post
    what is the difference between group 3 and group 4?

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    Quote Originally Posted by grouch0jr View Post
    what is the difference between group 3 and group 4?
    Full synthetic is a group 4.
    Blend is a group 3.

    Standards in the states allows for group 3's to advertise that they are full synthetic.


    Sarge...I don't really have the time or money right now to be sending off oil.
    I REALLY liked that VP 5w-30. How does amsoil rate with that??

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    So...is mobil1 full senthetic really full synthetic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankthetank View Post
    So...is mobil1 full senthetic really full synthetic?
    Per United States regs....yes.

    Mobil 1 USED to be a group 4 synthetic. If it still was, it would be a great oil. This is why everyone thinks they are great. They used to be.
    Then all the other brand names started using group 3 basestock, and Mobil called them on it.
    Well...eventually Mobil gave in and went to group 3 as well. Business is about making money. Can't really blame them.

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    Yea....I started reading the shit on the website about amsoil....damn their saying 25,000 miles or one yr, whatever comes first b4 abnother oil change! lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by grouch0jr View Post
    what is the difference between group 3 and group 4?
    GrpIII is a highly refined dino oil that is on par with any synthetic. GrpIV is a man made PAO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankthetank View Post
    So...is mobil1 full senthetic really full synthetic?
    In Europe where the "rules" are much more stringent the Mobil1 here in the States would be sold as a conventional.

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    ill have to give amsoil a try in the rustang. I use PP 10-30 in the stang sarge, is amsoil a thin oil? would i use amsoil 10-30 or go thicker?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 310stanger View Post
    ill have to give amsoil a try in the rustang. I use PP 10-30 in the stang sarge, is amsoil a thin oil? would i use amsoil 10-30 or go thicker?
    Amsoil is not a thinner oil by virtue of being Amsoil. In order to meet the SAE specified rating, all oils have to maintain their perspective weight rating otherwise it could not be marketed as such. Example, a 5W-30 weight oil has to be within SAE tolerances to get the 5W-30 label.

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    weight is a measurement of how much oil flows through a fixed orifice in a fixed time correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0rion View Post
    weight is a measurement of how much oil flows through a fixed orifice in a fixed time correct?
    you said orifice

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarge View Post
    GrpIII is a highly refined dino oil that is on par with any synthetic. GrpIV is a man made PAO.
    PAO?

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    Post PAO = 100% Synthetic

    Quote Originally Posted by Frankthetank View Post
    PAO?
    Group IV – Polyalphaolefins (PAO)

    A more specific type of olefin is a poly-alpha-olefin (or poly-α-olefin, sometimes abbreviated as PAO), a polymer made by polymerizing an alpha-olefin. An alpha-olefin (or α-olefin) is an alkene where the carbon-carbon double bond starts at the α-carbon atom, i.e. the double bond is between the #1 and #2 carbons in the molecule. Common alpha-olefins used as co-monomers to give a polymer alkyl branching groups are similar to 1-hexene or may be longer.

    In Europe, only Groups IV and V may be classed as synthetics.

    Works sited: wikipedia link


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    ok...so if class IV is 100% synthetic.....what is class V 200%? lol

    One last important question b4 i go load up on some.....where is it made?
    In the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by CompSyn View Post
    Group IV – Polyalphaolefins (PAO)

    A more specific type of olefin is a poly-alpha-olefin (or poly-α-olefin, sometimes abbreviated as PAO), a polymer made by polymerizing an alpha-olefin. An alpha-olefin (or α-olefin) is an alkene where the carbon-carbon double bond starts at the α-carbon atom, i.e. the double bond is between the #1 and #2 carbons in the molecule. Common alpha-olefins used as co-monomers to give a polymer alkyl branching groups are similar to 1-hexene or may be longer.

    In Europe, only Groups IV and V may be classed as synthetics.

    Works sited: wikipedia link

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    Yes...Amsoil is All American....
    Order it through CompSyn.....his banner is here on the site....you just down the road from me....the Amsoil 10-30 is good stuff....
    Last edited by Sarge; 07-25-2008 at 09:50 AM.

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    class V would be a different kind of synthetic?

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