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This is a discussion on What engine upgrades are needed for Procharger... within the Forced Induction forums, part of the LSx Technical Help Section category; Originally Posted by WTF Wow, bob just described the setup he did for me. Minus suspension work. I have items ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by WTF
    Wow, bob just described the setup he did for me. Minus suspension work. I have items 1,2,3,4,5,9,14, an 15. Bob knows what he is doing and he will ALWAYS treat you right. I know that from experience. The only difference is I did my bottom end also. Getting in touch with EPP is the direction you want to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ~redlinels1~
    EPP has some awesome deals. I really like his price for pulling the motor, building it, reinstalling it, and tuning it.

    *wonders how much it would cost to ship him my car*
    Considering you wouldn't have to pay state sales tax on the parts if you shipped your car to us, it wouldn't be that expensive. Bob

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    Well Bob, I hope they don't kiss at the new year bell! Oh man, maybe I shouldn't visit for the big intercooler and smaller pulley. I might get beat to death. Might have to take my chances though. Have a good one.

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    Bob, I have D1SC on my 99 z28 w/ 7.5 psi af boost and making 472 rwhp. And I would like to gain more power, I'm thinking about upgrading my heads and cam. I want to go for AFR 205 or 225 combine w/ cam, how much more horses do you think I will get if I install this part. And do I need to forged my bottom end, if I do can use my stock block and just do the crank and pistons????

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    just a quick question realistically with the ati d 1sc kit if you only run 8- 10 psi how will your engine and overall car reliability suffer ? i have only 40k on my engine and would like to do an ati kit but am afraid it will ruin the reliability or just plain break am i justfied or just crazy please lemme know

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    Quote Originally Posted by joeytransam View Post
    just a quick question realistically with the ati d 1sc kit if you only run 8- 10 psi how will your engine and overall car reliability suffer ? i have only 40k on my engine and would like to do an ati kit but am afraid it will ruin the reliability or just plain break am i justfied or just crazy please lemme know

    It will be fine. I am pushing over 500 rwhp. Have been at those numbers since Mar 2005. No issues to report.

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    Just Incase Guys,ive Gota Forged Ls2 Still In Bag At Mach.shop And A D1sc For Sell Under Parts For Sell Sect Can No Longer Finish Install Any Questions Call 724 869 9643 Thanks Ed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exotic Performance Plus View Post
    Thanks guys, I appreciate it! Here is something that I put together that might help answer a few questions. Item 15 will answer the ProCharger item requirements. Bob


    Here is a list of items that I recently put together for building up the chassis prior to adding the horsepower. People are always asking the question of whether to go with a head and cam package, or go with a supercharger or turbocharger. There is no way you are to match the power of an ATI ProCharger with a head and cam package unless you use a pretty radical camshaft. Nitrous oxide could be used instead of going the forced induction route, with very good results at a fraction of the cost. A cold air kit would be required if you elect to use nitrous oxide instead of going the forced induction (ATI ProCharger) route. The ATI ProChargers come with a K&N cone filter. With forced induction, such as the ATI ProCharger, the power is always going to be there when you want it, with no nitrous bottles to constantly refill. A turbocharger could be used instead of an ATI ProCharger, but I am not convinced that the turbo kits currently out on the market will stand the test of time. TurboChargers go through extreme heat cycles, which can fracture the turbo housing mounts.
    With the items listed below, your car would be quite capable of routinely running low eleven second 1/4 mile times, or faster, when combined with the M/T Street radial rear tires.








    Over 500 hp out the door, and will still get great gas mileage!

    Our standard 8 psi system for $7,499.99.00 includes:

    ATI ProCharger D-1SC 8 rib supercharger with (new for '05) larger 4.5" twin high-flow intercooler system
    LS1 Edit programming and tuning on our Mustang Chassis Dyno
    Ford SVO 42lb fuel injectors
    Holley/Walbro 340 in tank forced induction fuel pump with in-tank modifications
    Spark plugs for forced induction

    Also Includes ATI Performance Products Harmonic Balancer, which is required for the 8 rib belt assembly


    Includes our dyno computer tuning and complete print-outs

    The D1SC supercharger system carries a 1-year warranty from ATI.
    Amen to that post.I was running The p1sc with heads, cam, and full suspension mods and it was an animal!
    Not only can you get the exhaust to be loud and noticable, but the blower too. I had my p1sc with the loud cut impeller and was spinning it at around 62000 rpm.It was loud and sounded sick!
    The price for the package you offered is pretty damn good. You sound like a pretty fair shop.
    If was looking for a procharger install i'd jump all over that.

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    Bob of EPP, thanks for the input. New to the Ls1 scene and wondered how much horse power would the D1SC(with all necessary mods) make on stock Ls1 engine. I would like to do my home work before I drop some serious cash. That will not be the only mod I perform, a complete exhaust, complete brakes and suspension, and an MSD coil pack. I want to build a 500rwhp street car that handles exceptionally well. Any advice or experience you can share would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

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    why would you want cooler burning plugs on a forced induction system? ive been wondering what type of plugs to replace mine with(twin turbo system in the works) that will work the best.
    also, anyone heard of using 02+ gm truck headers to face forward instead of backward(for turbos)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lt4ever View Post
    I like Eagle cuz they're inexpensive and reliable, plus I think they're the only after market manufacturer that is USA made... if that even matters any more. Just have the rods measured, weighed and checked by a reputable machine shop and have them balance the rods with the correct weight pistons and wrist pins. I bought a forged stroker crank and forged connecting rods from Eagle and aluminum pistons from JE Pistons.
    it still matters to some of us.

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    I would highly recommend a meth. injection kit like alkycontrol.I have it along with a procharger kit.I also know of a vet that runs consistent mid to low 10's with a paxton that has a completely stock bottom end, ECS blower cam and tune ,ad he has over 300 passes on that motor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exotic Performance Plus View Post
    Yes it includes installation, tuned, everything. Thanks for inquiring. Bob
    wow choices choices I dont know what grrr

    your price is reasonable and you said it yourself reliable, where are you located?

    btw Aps twin turbos 10,000 installed and tuned. but too much heat.

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    i would recommend heads/ cam for the power to price ratio!
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