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STS Turbo in Camaro SS at Exotic Performance Plus

This is a discussion on STS Turbo in Camaro SS at Exotic Performance Plus within the Forced Induction forums, part of the LSx Technical Help Section category; Originally Posted by denn454 i have a few questions no one has brought up yet about this. how well is ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by denn454
    i have a few questions no one has brought up yet about this. how well is the turbo going to handle the water if its driven on a rainy day? i'm sure its going to run cooler than a traditional trubo (up to 1600*F) but it still has to run pretty darn hot, if it gets hit with some cold water isnt' there some concern with warping? i'm sure if it was a gradual rain that slowly picked up the water would not be much of an issue but what about running though a puddle and splashing it? it seems to me like that would be the biggest problem with it.

    also those pics can be a little decieving, exactly how low in relation to the rear end does the turbo sit? looks to me like a speed bump might cause some pretty serious problems.

    also exactly how does the oil system work? does it tap into the oil pan or use its own self contained oil system with a cooler and filter and all the other good stuff?(that sounds a lot more reliable and less likely to have any contaminates that can and do kill turbos to me)
    seperate oiling system...about as high as the stock muffler...and the turbo is probably only runnign 600-700 degrees...so water isn't gonna hurt it...not to mention...you'd have to drive through a very big puddle to get it up as high as the turbo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrandonDrecksage
    seperate oiling system...about as high as the stock muffler...and the turbo is probably only runnign 600-700 degrees...so water isn't gonna hurt it...not to mention...you'd have to drive through a very big puddle to get it up as high as the turbo.
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    Bob, do you think that you could fit a muffler on an F-body? I would really like mine to be quieter; I am not a fan of loud cars.
    I can make the trip to Fort Wayne with no problem; although the Formula is now sleeping the winter sleep.

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    I would think a bullet type of muffler could be installed. Bob

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    you can easily put 2 bullet mufflers on there and quiet things down considerably.

    also consider plumbing the wastegate into the exhaust to get rid of that horrible shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh sound it makes.

    this is what I have done and now you just hear whistle and exhaust. The car is no louder now than it was with my catback.

    These things with no muffler are wayyyyyyyy to loud.

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    Blackbird, which mufflers did you use? I have seen several that look like they may work, but I would like to know what worked for you.
    Would you have any pictures of the mufflers installed?
    Thanks.

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    I used the dynomax bullets.

    No pics yet. I want to redo some of what I did to pretty it up more before showing the public.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackbird
    I used the dynomax bullets.

    No pics yet. I want to redo some of what I did to pretty it up more before showing the public.
    It sounds like you're going to have a nice set-up. Bob

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    i have a 98 transam i just bought a rear mount turbo. the 60 mm one. i have not put it on yet, but if you go to ststurbo.com you will find on a stock ls1 camaro or transam at 5psi it has 414 rwhp and at 8psi it has 508 rwhp i have talked sts on the phone the set up was designed on a stock set up and is suposed to have no lag at 3000 rpm the advantaged to this you don't have to run and intercooler if not going over 6psi and just being in the back of the car away from the motor will keep cooler, so it will hopefully last longer not being under extreme heat all the time. also the turbo lag is at a minimum and instead of adding weight to the front of the car where it is unwanted, it is right over the wheels to help hooking up!!! i am also going to keep my air box on the their for the stock look and run a rubber tubbing around the return pipe to the throttle body for the stock look. So when a fellow racer is scared about raceing me a quick pop of the the hood say its stock off we go to the race and hopefully take a win!!!!!!!!!

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    Sounds like a nice plan. Post some pics when you get done.

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    Pics look fantastic but...I'm a bit confused about the mounting
    of the turbocharger in the rear of the car. With that much plumbing
    it could take a while to get on boost. I'm sure it works but I would
    prefer to have the turbo mounted closer to the cylinder heads/exhaust
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    Quote Originally Posted by turbojoe
    Pics look fantastic but...I'm a bit confused about the mounting
    of the turbocharger in the rear of the car. With that much plumbing
    it could take a while to get on boost. I'm sure it works but I would
    prefer to have the turbo mounted closer to the cylinder heads/exhaust
    manifolds.

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    I have been running one for almost a year and do not feel any lag. The biggest drawback is that you cannot use subframe connectors because of all the plumbing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by koolaid_kid
    The biggest drawback is that you cannot use subframe connectors because of all the plumbing.
    Not according to tbyrne. Supposedly there is an alternate plumbing method to keep your SFCs. At least I am counting on that. I have KBDDs and am getting and STS shortly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clemsondave
    Not according to tbyrne. Supposedly there is an alternate plumbing method to keep your SFCs. At least I am counting on that. I have KBDDs and am getting and STS shortly.
    I'd be real interested in how they keep the SFC on the driver side! Bob

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    I have sent him an email for specifics. I did a search on ls1tech for STS and subframe. There is a post around Jan 05 in the Forced Induction section. I would post a link, but I have not visited ls1 much since it was re-done and I don't have the required 10 posts to post a link.

    Bob, I will be contacting you about my soon to be purchase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clemsondave
    Not according to tbyrne. Supposedly there is an alternate plumbing method to keep your SFCs. At least I am counting on that. I have KBDDs and am getting and STS shortly.
    I would also be very interested. Please let us know, as they would be my next purchase.
    I found this one, in which tbyrne seems to retract their statement.
    bradyb works for STS, and seems to agree.
    http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showth...t=STS+subframe
    Last edited by koolaid_kid; 01-10-2006 at 11:43 PM.

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    Boy, if you look at the pic's from under the Camaro SS that we built, I just don't see how you could retain the driver side subframe connector. Bob

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    I don't like that either. I just wish there were more clearance under the F-bodies. It would be great for a truck/SUV. I've test driven too many trucks/SUVs that were way too wimpy in performance. I need a new truck/SUV and I think I'll add the STS to it after I buy it. My wife wants an H3, so that's probably what I'll get. But that 3.5 liter 5-cylinder engine sure needs some help. Is there a kit for the H3 yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Contra[SS]
    WOW, i mean wow... that's an awesome job you guys have done and I love how you document it so well. Can yo upossibly get a sound clip on the site of that ls1? I really want to know what that beast sounds like with a turbo as a muffler!
    Thanks! Sound clips are now in place. Bob

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exotic Performance Plus
    Thanks! Sound clips are now in place. Bob
    OMG! I think I just creamed in my pants . . that ls1 is one kick ass ride!!! The sound was deeper and better than I thought it would be! And just the sight of the rear end lifting with the reving was just unbelievable! Wow, just wow . . I want one now! lol

    Now if only I had some more money . .

    Thanks Bob for those clips! definately saving up for one of those now.

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