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This is a discussion on best supercharger/procharger for... within the Forced Induction forums, part of the LSx Technical Help Section category; the procharger looks cleaner in the engine bay,than the vortech...

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    the procharger looks cleaner in the engine bay,than the vortech

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    Turbo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    if you turbo your car you will crush all the prochargers, vortechs, or any supercharged one...who cares if itll be more work...if you dont want to put the work in dont do anything to the car.....and when youre done with the turbo youll be happier, so i say turbo....superchargers are so much more inefficient and on equal levels of boost the turbo will produce a lot more power than any supercharger if its properly sized for your engine it will not have any lag either.....
    a supercharger only gradually dumps boost in...so it wont even reach full boost until the motor is at redline because the pully has to be spun to the max to reach max boost...
    with a proper turbo it can reach FULL boost as early as 2500 RPM and you can upgrade so many more parts later down the road like the wastegates, boost controllers, etc...and make some big numbers
    and not every LS1 has a turbo...it would be more unique and youll get much more power out of it in the end at equal levels of boost...
    Just my honest opinion...

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    Does anyone have a D-1SC on a LS-1? Just installed one and it is very noisy at idle. Anyone have one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mdion@bellsouth.net
    Does anyone have a D-1SC on a LS-1? Just installed one and it is very noisy at idle. Anyone have one?
    Every clip of a procharger I've heard is noisy at idle. A good way to quiet it down (from what I've been told) is upgrading to the SDCE tensioner. But take that with a grain of salt since I have no experience with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mdion@bellsouth.net
    Does anyone have a D-1SC on a LS-1? Just installed one and it is very noisy at idle. Anyone have one?
    They are normally a bit noisy. I actually like the whine.

    The SDCE will help the rattle. But the whine will still be there.
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    Can i do all this minus the clutch with an auto trany and get the same results? what would something like this run if it was professionally installed or done do it yourself? would i need a new after market torque converter?

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    You can run 8 pounds on a stock engine.

    A4's don't have clutches, just torque converters.

    The tuner kit is over $4k, the you need the supporting parts. Injectors, fuel pump. Tuning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickyhaiber
    if you turbo your car you will crush all the prochargers, vortechs, or any supercharged one...who cares if itll be more work...if you dont want to put the work in dont do anything to the car.....and when youre done with the turbo youll be happier, so i say turbo....superchargers are so much more inefficient and on equal levels of boost the turbo will produce a lot more power than any supercharger if its properly sized for your engine it will not have any lag either.....
    a supercharger only gradually dumps boost in...so it wont even reach full boost until the motor is at redline because the pully has to be spun to the max to reach max boost...
    with a proper turbo it can reach FULL boost as early as 2500 RPM and you can upgrade so many more parts later down the road like the wastegates, boost controllers, etc...and make some big numbers
    and not every LS1 has a turbo...it would be more unique and youll get much more power out of it in the end at equal levels of boost...
    Just my honest opinion...
    and on a stock bottom end, if you exceed 500 rwhp, you're still f*cked! haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuelslut
    Can i do all this minus the clutch with an auto trany and get the same results? what would something like this run if it was professionally installed or done do it yourself? would i need a new after market torque converter?
    I just noticed you're from Minneapolis, I'm about an hour from there. Welcome to the board.

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    i should have put that this question would be directed at EPP Bob

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    yeah well actually ive been in Mississippi for the last 3months Mobilizing for a 1 year tour in Iraq. so hopefully i can get some of the mods i want done before i come back. oh and as a note don't ever visit Mississippi if you get the chance. (no offense to anyone from MS)

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuelslut
    Can i do all this minus the clutch with an auto trany and get the same results? what would something like this run if it was professionally installed or done do it yourself? would i need a new after market torque converter?
    Yes you can. The Camaro SS that we built has an automatic in it. You would need a built transmission, and a good converter. I recommend RPM Transmissions and Neal Chance for the converter. You can get 15k+ into the car real quickly on a project like the one we did. Bob
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    Quote Originally Posted by fuelslut
    yeah well actually ive been in Mississippi for the last 3months Mobilizing for a 1 year tour in Iraq. so hopefully i can get some of the mods i want done before i come back. oh and as a note don't ever visit Mississippi if you get the chance. (no offense to anyone from MS)
    I've been to Mississippi...my best friend lived there for a while....it's definitely an experience.

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    OKAY MAYBE I SHOULD REPHRASE MY QUESTION... I AM LOOKING TO INVEST AROUND 5k and essentially looking for the most go for the money. 500rwhp at this point is honestly more than i know how to drive. i was hoping for something like 400-425rwhp to start with, but something that would leave me the ability to keep moding as more $ became available. Drivability is important. i guess there is alot more i could ask im still a novice at this but i really would like to do most of the work on my own car. u guess seem quite knowledgeable so i figured this would be a good place to start. so far i have Eibach springs, Wilwood front brakes( the 2 piece 13" 6piston caliper mothers) and new rims and rudder.

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    then just do your heads and get some cams put in with exhaust if you want 400 hp dumba$$...you dont need forced induction to do that....but if you want bigger numbers go with a Vorturd or PoorCharger like every one and their grandmother does....and if you want even better numbers go with a turbo...simple as that....none will end up being cheap so get a new hobby if thats what your worried about or dont go forced induction b/c its not cheap to make it work right and get it tuned right and still be reliable unless you have a lot of spare money that you can part with

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickyhaiber
    then just do your heads and get some cams put in with exhaust if you want 400 hp dumba$$...you dont need forced induction to do that....but if you want bigger numbers go with a Vorturd or PoorCharger like every one and their grandmother does....and if you want even better numbers go with a turbo...simple as that....none will end up being cheap so get a new hobby if thats what your worried about or dont go forced induction b/c its not cheap to make it work right and get it tuned right and still be reliable unless you have a lot of spare money that you can part with
    It would be nice to see someone give an objective and honest opinion without namecalling. Would you install "some cams"? Or just one?

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    lol i have 3 on mine, that was good. haha

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    i was thinking of ducktaping an extra set of heads on my spoiler

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    fuelslut, it sounds like to me you should go the full exhaust, head/cam route. you can get to 425 rwhp with the right set of heads and cam (tuned) while still maintaining pretty good driveability. Lt's, catback, lid, afr 205 heads, 224/224 cam, ls6 intake and get that bitch tuned and you will be happy and still really driveable. prolly between 390 and 430 depending on your car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baseballss
    i was thinking of ducktaping an extra set of heads on my spoiler
    It works better if you use Gorilla Glue or an equivalent. I had extra heads ducktaped on my spoiler and on the drive shaft. The gains, along with a few extra cams, were spectacular for about 5k miles when the tape started to come loose. I re-attached everything with Gorilla glue and I'm pulling 692hp at the front wheels!!

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