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This is a discussion on Anyone heard of this? within the Forced Induction forums, part of the LSx Technical Help Section category; Originally Posted by Frost haha Sorry, never heard that about a t3/t4 before. What does that make this T6 hybrid ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frost View Post
    haha

    Sorry, never heard that about a t3/t4 before.


    What does that make this T6 hybrid with a 5" downpipe?

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    T6? Do'nt know never seen one.....I was speaking of the 2 I 've got. Not sure where you're going with what you're saying? There's no need to be ass, especially since I've recommended you to people numerous (on and off this site) times before.

    Mine have a 2.5in inlet 2.25 outlet. The exhaust side is also 2.5in out and 2.5 in.. TO4E t3/t4's..

    ....and yes I know 2 of them will do the job.....

    Sooo what about the down pipe? Mine is 3''....
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    2 X T3/T4 TURBO CHARGERS .50 A/R COMPRESSOR - .63 A/R TURBINE - 57 COMPRESSOR WHEEL TRIM.
    Mirage Power Balanced and blue printed turbos.

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    those turbos r to small for an ls1. im using 1 of those on a d16z6 (thats a 1.6 liter) honda motor and its full spool at 3500

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    Quote Originally Posted by THEBRAD View Post
    those turbos r to small for an ls1. im using 1 of those on a d16z6 (thats a 1.6 liter) honda motor and its full spool at 3500

    That's cool but I'm not using them on an LSx powered car, and you do realize the t3/t4 comes in various trims and so forth for different apps right? Mine are listed for use on small bock v8's and supra, including toyota tundra, camaro, and fire bird.. Mirage Power does list the t3/t4 for use on Hondas', however they have a different wheel trim, and inlet/outlet sizes than the 2 I have..
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    Example:

    This is one listed from loveil for the civic,delsol,and crx:

    T3/T4 Turbocharger with Air Filter

    Turbine Turbocharger

    Oil cooled

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    Turbine Specs :
    T3 Type Turbine
    11 Blade Type
    2.25" Exducer
    Turbine .64 A.R.
    Turbine 76 Trim
    2.560 " or 65.04mm Major
    2.204 " or 56.00mm Minor
    Exhaust Outlet Flange with 5 bolt design
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    the ones u have listed as owning r the 1s that i have. but since they r on a v6 they should work pretty decent. im sure that car spools pretty quick, those turbos on that motor should support around 700 id imagine

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    is that a roll cage going down the side of that car in the 2nd pic frost?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smittro View Post
    I'm using 2- t3/t4 TO4E's and the turbos are huge.
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    T6? Do'nt know never seen one.....I was speaking of the 2 I 've got. Not sure where you're going with what you're saying?.....

    I thought the pics would say it for me but I guess not...

    I was saying that I have never seen or heard those turbos referred to as 'huge'.

    They are too small to use even in a pair on a V8. Yes, they have different compressor arrangements, but the exhaust housing is tiny and will quickly become a backpressure point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THEBRAD View Post
    is that a roll cage going down the side of that car in the 2nd pic frost?
    that's actually a 79ish Chevy C10 shortbed half-ton truck. There is a video of it from a years back when it used to have a Procharger and was first on the road: http://www.tunedbyfrost.com/video.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by THEBRAD View Post
    the ones u have listed as owning r the 1s that i have. but since they r on a v6 they should work pretty decent. im sure that car spools pretty quick, those turbos on that motor should support around 700 id imagine
    There going on my TDC project, I'm not building a drag car, so they will never see more than 400ish crank hp. Maybe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smittro View Post
    There going on my TDC project, I'm not building a drag car, so they will never see more than 400ish crank hp. Maybe.
    I don't know what a TDC (top dead center?!?) project is, but if that is what you are looking for then I am sure they will work fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frost View Post
    I thought the pics would say it for me but I guess not...

    I was saying that I have never seen or heard those turbos referred to as 'huge'.

    They are too small to use even in a pair on a V8. Yes, they have different compressor arrangements, but the exhaust housing is tiny and will quickly become a backpressure point.
    Okay I got ya. Their going on a small displacement 60*v6 (about 207 ci) so they'll work just fine for my application trust me.. They are large when you consider only 3 cyl will be pushing each of them..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frost View Post
    I don't know what a TDC (top dead center?!?) project is, but if that is what you are looking for then I am sure they will work fine.
    <-----TDC= Twin Dual Cam...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frost View Post
    I thought the pics would say it for me but I guess not...

    I was saying that I have never seen or heard those turbos referred to as 'huge'.

    They are too small to use even in a pair on a V8. Yes, they have different compressor arrangements, but the exhaust housing is tiny and will quickly become a backpressure point.
    I guess it's a typo from the company then, like I said they're listed for use on SB v8's.. The exaust side of any turbo is a back pressure point.
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    thats just a pic of a video frost no video lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smittro View Post
    I dunno maybe you guys should jump on this site and tell this guy the t3/t4 is too small for his 5.0L v8..lol
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    That's not a fitting argument though. A guy in that thread made 500rwhp with those twins. FWIW I had an N/A 402 do better than that last week.

    It's also not apples to apples because he has only 300 cubic inches. Going from a 346-7" engine to 370"+ means the move from a T4 exhaust housing (which is bigger than the turbos you are talking about) to a larger T6 if your setup is properly sized. I had backpressure issues on my own car with a T4 P76GTS (rated at 1150 HP) with stock cubic inches (347 LS1) and it is MUCH larger than the one you are talking about. There is no way it would be better with a smaller exhaust housing; it would be much worse. That's how I know that they are too small. I have seen the same turbo taken OFF of a 383" and replaced with an 88mm T6 and the car picked up over 100rwhp at same level of boost.

    Of course, if you are just throwing together what you have on hand for a build, they will do something, you just may have to shift by 5K to keep head gaskets on the car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THEBRAD View Post
    thats just a pic of a video frost no video lol
    haha sorry, I was in a hurry.

    fixed.

    and here
    http://www.tunedbyfrost.com/video.htm

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    ya the turbine side is a back pressure point... but to much and you'll blown your head gasket's every time you get into it.. plus your manifold's will be glowing after a few second's... and those thing's will be maxed out around 2000rpm's and your power band will die after 4k I have done what your doing in a 83 S-10 with a 305 in it. I ended up useing two with .76A/R.. and that worked out ok but still didn't have the top end I was looking for..

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