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is a 12 bolt strong enough for a procharger

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    is a 12 bolt strong enough for a procharger

    Also is a moser or strange 12 bolt strong enough for a procharger that isnt raced at the track? im estimating around 500-550 rwhp and it will not be raced at the track except for my first run after the procharger is on and after that im pretty sure ill be sub 12's and i think they enforce the roll cage after 12's but maybe its 11's im not sure

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    Quote Originally Posted by bpopham22 View Post
    Also is a moser or strange 12 bolt strong enough for a procharger that isnt raced at the track? im estimating around 500-550 rwhp and it will not be raced at the track except for my first run after the procharger is on and after that im pretty sure ill be sub 12's and i think they enforce the roll cage after 12's but maybe its 11's im not sure
    Yes they are extremely strong. I doubt it will break with 550 horses. There have been ppl with boosted 427's making 700+ and still have a moser. I wouldnt bother with a cage unless the car sees serious track times.
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    11.50 and under requires a roll bar. 10.00 and under requires a certified sportsman cage.

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    sub 12's? You will be a lot faster than that!

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    yea i know but i thought the rule at my local track was sub 12's and u need a cage or something, id figure mid to low 11's becuase im not getting and dont want a stall

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    Quote Originally Posted by bpopham22 View Post
    yea i know but i thought the rule at my local track was sub 12's and u need a cage or something, id figure mid to low 11's becuase im not getting and dont want a stall
    You will need a drive shaft saftey loop for sure.

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    It's 11.49 or fast here for a roll cage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bpopham22 View Post
    yea i know but i thought the rule at my local track was sub 12's and u need a cage or something, id figure mid to low 11's becuase im not getting and dont want a stall

    Why do you not want a different than stock converter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bpopham22 View Post
    yea i know but i thought the rule at my local track was sub 12's and u need a cage or something, id figure mid to low 11's becuase im not getting and dont want a stall
    run it once, balls out...and if you get under the time the track has for any type of roll cage/DS safety loop/helmet, you just can't run it again there until you install that.

    Luckily I have 2 tracks by me...one goes by the rules...and the other is a mom and pop place that the tech inspection is near non-existent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Z28Thunder View Post
    Why do you not want a different than stock converter?
    take a look at his other thread regarding the same topic a few weeks back.

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    Haha yea no kidding. I'm gonna buy an aftermarket stall just not a big one. Like I said it won't be raced at the track so not very many hard launches,more like downshifting to pass at 50-60 mph with it floored.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 35th-ANV-SS View Post
    run it once, balls out...and if you get under the time the track has for any type of roll cage/DS safety loop/helmet, you just can't run it again there until you install that.

    Luckily I have 2 tracks by me...one goes by the rules...and the other is a mom and pop place that the tech inspection is near non-existent.
    A helmet and a DS safety loop are simple items that should be don no matter what. Most tracks won't allow you to race unless you wear a helmet. Roll cage well I still don't have one and still have to dodge the track officials everywhere I go. If you are going to keep it a DD then don't add a cage unless you want your ride quality to suffer.

    Also a 12 bolt is plenty strong to hold the power you are looking at making and they are lighter than a 9" Rear end.

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    My track is sub 14 helmet but loosely enforced also I want to get a torque ARM with the safety loop also any ideas on what mounts to the 12 bolts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bpopham22 View Post
    My track is sub 14 helmet but loosely enforced also I want to get a torque ARM with the safety loop also any ideas on what mounts to the 12 bolts?

    I use the Spohn Chassis mounted TQ arm with DS loop and a Moser 12 bolt. It works well.

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    Is that the same as a tunnel mounted trq arm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bpopham22 View Post
    Is that the same as a tunnel mounted trq arm?

    No, its mounts to the chassis under the car. Don't worry it is completely bolt on. Thus taking the pressure completely off of the transmission tailshaft.

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    Go with the Strange 12 bolt/

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    I heard that the Dana 60 and Mid West rear ends have the least amount of whine/noise. I sat in an 01 SS with a 12 bolt and 4.56's and that thing was HOWWWWLLLING!!!

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    just FYI i broke my 12 bolt with a stock LT1 and twin disc setup, it broke the eaton into 2 pieces just dont get an eaton and youll prob be ok

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